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17-07-2019, 09:29 PM | #26 | |||
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17-07-2019, 09:32 PM | #27 | |||
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Some good points raised..I don't know where to start. |
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18-07-2019, 07:39 AM | #28 | ||
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You know,There is a traditional English morris dancing group who’ve been painting their faces black for years.It’s apparently from the 16th century and nothing to do with race.
I’ve seen them a few times in the 80’s/90’s and there was no problem.Everyone enjoyed it. Only the other year though they apparently suffered abuse and had to flee from crowds who didn’t understand the tradition. |
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18-07-2019, 08:04 AM | #29 | ||
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18-07-2019, 08:57 AM | #31 | |||
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What makes you think that? The slave trade is alive and well my friend...
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18-07-2019, 09:02 AM | #32 | |||
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Every time this subject comes up I say the same thing, so I apologise if you've heard it before. Black people have been oppressed for centuries. So have Jewish people. Here is a picture of black Eddie Murphy whited up as a Jew. Note the big stereotypical Jewish nose...
Was I offended? Was anyone offended? Because I've never heard anyone say this is wrong. Only that it's wrong for white people to black up. |
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18-07-2019, 09:03 AM | #33 | |||
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18-07-2019, 09:38 AM | #34 | ||
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Just a blanket ‘Thou shalt never apply boot polish to ones face under any circumstance’ (as some people think) isn’t always appropriate(as with the morris dancers). People’s intentions aren’t always clear. |
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18-07-2019, 11:05 AM | #35 | ||
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False equivalency and unrealistic hypotheticals in an attempt to justify blackface? The state of Tibb gets grimmer by the day.
You can dress up as a black musician without blacking up your skin, there is no reason for blackface to exist in modern day considering the history of it. If you don't understand why it's so wrong then look it up. Whataboutism for SLAVERY?! jfc...... |
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18-07-2019, 11:16 AM | #36 | ||
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As for your whataboutism, there's been cases of black people whiting up and it causing controversies, it's not a one way street but blackface in particular has a sordid history which is why it's judged harshly. |
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18-07-2019, 11:18 AM | #37 | |||
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No? Someone said that white people have never been slaves, which is nonsense.
As white people have been slaves, that puts us on even footing, so whiting up and blacking up are the same. Last edited by Oliver_W; 18-07-2019 at 11:19 AM. |
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18-07-2019, 11:34 AM | #38 | ||
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I think its pretty wellknown that blackface is offensive to many. And therefor really the only reason I see for doing it is to shock or whatever. 'Whiteface' is not really a thing tbh..and no I don't think its the same if it was a thing given..well history.
Interesting point about drag though, thats came up before in similar discussions. Yes, some drag queens just do it for fun or because they want to, but the huge majority I have seen seem to do it to basically mock women. Especially the ones clubs hire. Those ones are just pure misogynists IMO.
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18-07-2019, 12:16 PM | #39 | |||
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So I'm taking it that "Jewing up" is perfectly fine.... Good to know.
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18-07-2019, 12:37 PM | #40 | ||
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Honestly, the rule of thumb should be, if the majority of a group of people find something offensive (and I think this DOES apply to blackface) then other people should respect that and stop doing it. It should really be as simple as that. No matter what group that is. |
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18-07-2019, 12:40 PM | #42 | ||
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Again I'd refer to the above; if the majority of Jewish people are genuinely offended by the costume then no it's not fine and it's not something people should continue doing it. . But does Murphy's "Jew Costume" actually offend you or is it just being used an example of "other people doing it too".
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18-07-2019, 12:43 PM | #43 | |||
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The fact you needed to ask answered your own question. Did you just need to get some ignorant blackface opinions out of your system?
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18-07-2019, 12:44 PM | #44 | |||
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The slave trade is rife and it's happening all over the world. How many times have you heard about slaves in this country, kept to work in dreadful conditions, no access to medicine... and that's in one of the most developed countries in the world. Trouble is that we don't hear that much about modern slavery. I don't know why anyone should suppose slavery is any better for the slave now. |
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18-07-2019, 12:48 PM | #45 | |||
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Yes those 'white trash' girls are slaves to the perverted grooming gangs and that is not history ,it's happening now, Lets not forget those white girls.
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18-07-2019, 12:49 PM | #46 | |||
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18-07-2019, 12:52 PM | #47 | |||
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I'm sure you have no idea whether Jews were offended... it wouldn't have occurred to you. But you LEAP on the blackface thing. So I should just stick with that if I were you. |
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18-07-2019, 01:26 PM | #48 | |||
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I've been saying for years that people on this forum dont really understand these issues and along comes a thread like this to prove me right.
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18-07-2019, 01:30 PM | #50 | |||
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He says definatly racist and he would kick me out his party if I came with make up on ...he still likes me though |
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