[Kazanne]

I don't think it's fair to blame Trump for these shootings, but I can see its nectar to his haters, the problem lies much deeper than him, how about blaming the person who purchased that gun, and chose to kill people, there will always be people with a warped mindset, Trump has said he will do something so hopefully he will do something about gun control,but it won't be easy as America has always had a gun problem,

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't think it's fair to blame Trump for these shootings, but I can see its nectar to his haters, the problem lies much deeper than him, how about blaming the person who purchased that gun, and chose to kill people, there will always be people with a warped mindset, Trump has said he will do something so hopefully he will do something about gun control,but it won't be easy as America has always had a gun problem,

When random uncontrollable things occur people like to blame something as it gives them a sense of control. Some odious democrats are using this tragedy to score futile political points. Its sad but somewhat inevitable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When random uncontrollable things occur people like to blame something as it gives them a sense of control. Some odious democrats are using this tragedy to score futile political points. Its sad but somewhat inevitable.

That's true LT, take Trump 'smiling' for example it can be seen as his natural look of his face ,he seems to me to always have that smile,or it can be spun as something more sinister as people don't like him,not everything is black and white, there are people that I don't like,do I go out and shoot them? no,it's just the mindset of rare individuals,lets hope Trump will deal with it as he has said,gun control might be a good start

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's true LT, take Trump 'smiling' for example it can be seen as his natural look of his face ,he seems to me to always have that smile,or it can be spun as something more sinister as people don't like him,not everything is black and white, there are people that I don't like,do I go out and shoot them? no,it's just the mindset of rare individuals,lets hope Trump will deal with it as he has said,gun control might be a good start

yes putting the guns out of those trump supporter hands would be a good start

cause it's too coincidental the victims of this Texas shooting being mexicans, Trump and his loyal support hating mexicans

but knowing Trump he won't do such thing

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes putting the guns out of those trump supporter hands would be a good start

cause it's too coincidental the victims of this Texas shooting being mexicans, Trump and his loyal support hating mexicans

but knowing Trump he won't do such thing

WHat if most Americans dont want to give up their guns tho Nicky. Mind you he could at least start by getting rid of Assault Rifles

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes putting the guns out of those trump supporter hands would be a good start

cause it's too coincidental the victims of this Texas shooting being mexicans, Trump and his loyal support hating mexicans

but knowing Trump he won't do such thing

You don't know Trump he might surprise you

[Ammi]

...he actually refers to the reason why he’s smiling...’only in the panhandle can you get away with that statement’...he finds the comment and his joke in response so amusing, he repeats it...just in case those in the back didn’t hear him...I mean really, there is somewhere in the USA where saying ‘shoot them’ is acceptable..because that’s apparently so according to the rule book of the USA president...as he accidentally smiles at how amusing it all is, the prejudice aligning itself to his words...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When random uncontrollable things occur people like to blame something as it gives them a sense of control. Some odious democrats are using this tragedy to score futile political points. Its sad but somewhat inevitable.

OR. ... they are pointing out the very real risk posed when there is someone high profile making light of someone shouting 'shoot them' at a rally.

These shootings are not random, they are planned targetted terrorist attacks.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

OR. ... they are pointing out the very real risk posed when there is someone high profile making light of someone shouting 'shoot them' at a rally.

These shootings are not random, they are planned targetted terrorist attacks.

correct, and didn't this killer here in Texas say he sympathizes with that one shooter from Christchurch

so it's also a planned hate crime then, since specifically targets are mexicans in this shooting

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

OR. ... they are pointing out the very real risk posed when there is someone high profile making light of someone shouting 'shoot them' at a rally.

These shootings are not random, they are planned targetted terrorist attacks.

this guy got suspended from school for putting up a hit list of girls he wanted to kill. Trump has nothing to do with this lone nut job.

[bots]

If mass shootings had started happening when Trump came to power, some connection could be drawn, but as much as people want to blame Trump (and I don't like the guy) mass shootings have been happening for decades. There have been over 200 mass shootings in America this year. It's in single digits, the number that are directed at mexicans. You need to look at the spread of events and the targets over all .... and the simple fact is there are too many other things involved to pin the blame on Trump.

The other mass shooting that happened at the night club, the guy shot his sister. I mean, please tell me how that can be blamed on Trump

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If mass shootings had started happening when Trump came to power, some connection could be drawn, but as much as people want to blame Trump (and I don't like the guy) mass shootings have been happening for decades. There have been over 200 mass shootings in America this year. It's in single digits, the number that are directed at mexicans. You need to look at the spread of events and the targets over all .... and the simple fact is there are too many other things involved to pin the blame on Trump.

The other mass shooting that happened at the night club, the guy shot his sister. I mean, please tell me how that can be blamed on Trump

Great and unbiased post bots, you don't have to be a Trump 'fan' to see its ridiculous to blame him.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Great and unbiased post bots, you don't have to be a Trump 'fan' to see its ridiculous to blame him.

yes i know there were also mass shootings before trump's presidency

the columbine school shooting for example

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If mass shootings had started happening when Trump came to power, some connection could be drawn, but as much as people want to blame Trump (and I don't like the guy) mass shootings have been happening for decades. There have been over 200 mass shootings in America this year. It's in single digits, the number that are directed at mexicans. You need to look at the spread of events and the targets over all .... and the simple fact is there are too many other things involved to pin the blame on Trump.

The other mass shooting that happened at the night club, the guy shot his sister. I mean, please tell me how that can be blamed on Trump

Try maintaining a bit of perspective nobody is suggesting that trumps responsible for every shooting ever.
It is specifically the targetted attacks in reference to incitement by Trump and his policies.
In the space of one week there were 2 attacks, (the garlic festival and El paso) in which the killers themselves referenced wording that could have come direct from a trump rally, this quote is part if the july 28th garlic festival killers monologue prior to the attack 'hordes of*mestizos'...
Now you would have to be really blinkered to not see the correlation here...

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[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Now you would have to be really blinkered to not see the correlation here...

'

I dont think that type of post really helps in SD


can you just make a point without oblique insults?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

this guy got suspended from school for putting up a hit list of girls he wanted to kill. Trump has nothing to do with this lone nut job.

Well his attention was switched to the 'invasion of Hispanics in Texas' as described in his 8chan explanation of his intention, what could have caused that switch?...


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-possible-hate

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

this guy got suspended from school for putting up a hit list of girls he wanted to kill. Trump has nothing to do with this lone nut job.

I'm so tired of people enabling terrorism by refusing to call it what it is. The guy is a terrorist, every right wing extremist that picks up a gun and shoots people for his ideals is a terrorist. His previous vile actions do not change the fact that he is a terrorist and he committed mass murder to create terror.

Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric and you only have to watch videos of the crowds at his events to see the effect that his words have on racists and extreme elements. It empowers them, it makes them feel validated. He is a leader and one with a cult-like following, when he tells people that mexican immigrants are racists, when he makes them out to be vermin or that the media is the enemy (not long after which, a US news channel was attacked btw), when he doubles down on racist attitudes and responds to criticism by hosting more rallies to incense his followers further he is telling them that their hatred is okay, they are taking his words as a call to action, as permission to commit atrocities.

Every other president and world leader as a whole knows to consider their words carefully, most leaders won't speak unless they know exactly what they are going to say and Trump is proof of why. A leader's words can inspire people to kill when they speak carelessly.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm so tired of people enabling terrorism by refusing to call it what it is. The guy is a terrorist, every right wing extremist that picks up a gun and shoots people for his ideals is a terrorist. His previous vile actions do not change the fact that he is a terrorist and he committed mass murder to create terror.

Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric and you only have to watch videos of the crowds at his events to see the effect that his words have on racists and extreme elements. It empowers them, it makes them feel validated. He is a leader and one with a cult-like following, when he tells people that mexican immigrants are racists, when he makes them out to be vermin or that the media is the enemy (not long after which, a US news channel was attacked btw), when he doubles down on racist attitudes and responds to criticism by hosting more rallies to incense his followers further he is telling them that their hatred is okay, they are taking his words as a call to action, as permission to commit atrocities.

Every other president and world leader as a whole knows to consider their words carefully, most leaders won't speak unless they know exactly what they are going to say and Trump is proof of why. A leader's words can inspire people to kill when they speak carelessly.

"Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric"

this from a poster who regularly, until called out, was posting that the US president was a child rapist so forgive me if i cant take you too seriously on that point above

[The Slim Reaper]

Shouldn't posts be about the subject and not other posters? Asking for a friend.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric"

this from a poster who regularly, until called out, was posting that the US president was a child rapist so forgive me if i cant take you too seriously on that point above

Typical deflection and whataboutism

Trump is a rapist, he raped Ivana and he has a long friendship with Epstein and a long list of accusations against him including a sealed case from a child he raped, he himself has talked about grabbing women by their 'pussies'. He is an abuser yet you still love him and make excuses for him. It's gross. Now that your little diversion tactic has flopped, why don't you call a spade a spade and refer to these shooters for what they are, terrorists?