[Liam-]

And actually, in respect of the El Paso shooting, his manifesto clearly states that he only decided to do what he did when he read ‘the great replacement’ a far-right conspiracy theory book about immigrants and decided it was the truth and tgat he had to do something about it, so stating that people can’t be ‘swayed’ by something isn’t true at all.

Add in President Loco’s rhetoric about an ‘invasion’ and ‘infestation’ of criminals and bad brown people, easily accessible weapons of war and you’ve got yourself a radicalised far right demosetic terrorist

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And actually, in respect of the El Paso shooting, his manifesto clearly states that he only decided to do what he did when he read ‘the great replacement’ a far-right conspiracy theory book about immigrants and decided it was the truth and tgat he had to do something about it, so stating that people can’t be ‘swayed’ by something isn’t true at all.

Add in President Loco’s rhetoric about an ‘invasion’ and ‘infestation’ of criminals and bad brown people, easily accessible weapons of war and you’ve got yourself a radicalised far right demosetic terrorist

or you could look at the immigration problem and previous presidents in ability to deal with it and say that perhaps this was the inevitable consequence of that

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or you could look at the immigration problem and previous presidents in ability to deal with it and say that perhaps this was the inevitable consequence of that

Yeah, it’s definitely because of that, not because the current president and his people are telling people that the nasty immigrants are going to murder them and rape their kids, totally

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah, it’s definitely because of that, not because the current president and his people are telling people that the nasty immigrants are going to murder them and rape their kids, totally

id imagine what is going on around in in his life is far more influential. How many young people his age do you know are influenced, care, or listen to Boris Johnson?


(probably none)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

id imagine what is going on around in in his life is far more influential. How many young people his age do you know are influenced, care, or listen to Boris Johnson?


(probably none)

State the obvious day...socialisation shapes young people there are many factors parents, educators, peers or media.
Young people Are interested in politics he was 21, it's insulting to suggest at that age you don't listen to politicians, which is why we should be able to trust them not to be sowing seeds of hate and division. .. but both here and in the US unfortunately we can't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

State the obvious day...socialisation shapes young people there are many factors parents, educators, peers or media.
Young people Are interested in politics he was 21, it's insulting to suggest at that age you don't listen to politicians, which is why we should be able to trust them not to be sowing seeds of hate and division. .. but both here and in the US unfortunately we can't.

"there are many factors parents, educators, peers or media"

indeed and politicians come way down that list.

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"there are many factors parents, educators, peers or media"

indeed and politicians come way down that list.

Yeah, to me it just reflects an ever more sick society and its not just america, it's across the world.

It's in peoples dna to try and associate blame to something that they dislike. Trump is a very polarising figure, there is no disputing that, but there are far more fundamental issues at play here than Trump

[Ammi]

...most Presidents are not on the list at all...only those who verbalise their prejudice so provocatively and who laugh at and joke about comments of violence ...(...and murder...ho, ho, ho...shoot ‘em...)...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"there are many factors parents, educators, peers or media"

indeed and politicians come way down that list.

Parents are influenced by politicians and they in turn influence young people.
I did mention media too.

I don't get what's so hard to understand here...
If the politicians spew hate via the media and parents regurgitated said hate then young people may become quite disaffected. . It's not a radical theory, it's very basic socialisation.

What a bizarre notion that politicians just talk and don't influence anyone when that's basically their job! :/

And secondly an equally odd suggestion that mass killers just kill people.. no influence required, they just wake up one day and think ' oh I'm going to blow some heads off today'...pffft.