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Then I guess we should also not forget the actual context of that remark

"They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.

"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

You could say the same about the Nazi party. I'm sure they were some people in that party that wouldn't say boo to a goose, but they were a member of and supported an organisation hell bent on genocide. That's the point.
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You could say the same about the Nazi party. I'm sure they were some people in that party that wouldn't say boo to a goose, but they were a member of and supported an organisation hell bent on genocide. That's the point.
Not comparable as Trump has never voiced support for genocide.
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Not comparable as Trump has never voiced support for genocide.
An attempted ban on all muslims, calling countries ****holes, demeaning latinos may not be genocide, but it enables it.
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An attempted ban on all muslims, calling countries ****holes, demeaning latinos may not be genocide, but it enables it.
He never attempted to ban all muslims, the ban was only for a handful of countries which were highly affected by terrorism.
Calling countries ****holes is dodgy language, I agree he shouldn't have said it. I don't know which incident of "demeaning Latinos" you're referring to, but again it was never all of them, unless you know of a quote I haven't encountered.
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He never attempted to ban all muslims, the ban was only for a handful of countries which were highly affected by terrorism.
Calling countries ****holes is dodgy language, I agree he shouldn't have said it. I don't know which incident of "demeaning Latinos" you're referring to, but again it was never all of them, unless you know of a quote I haven't encountered.
Here's the rub if you insist on using that logic; the saudis are a huge terror hotspot, providing most of the 9/11 attackers and funding it, the genocide in Yemen also has their dirty hands all over it, and yet Trump and his family said nothing about it, while Jared was busy begging for MBS's money on whatsapp.

If I don't like one black person, so call him a dumb N, is that ok because I didn't mean all black people?
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If I don't like one black person, so call him a dumb N, is that ok because I didn't mean all black people?
What has Trump said that's comparable to calling someone the N-word?
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What has Trump said that's comparable to calling someone the N-word?
Didn't he suggest all mexicans were rapists?
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What has Trump said that's comparable to calling someone the N-word?
Well apparently there are apprentice tapes under lock that has a fairly liberal use of the N word in them, but that's not the point. My point was on whether insulting 1 person in a racist way was ok, because it's not all of them. Which incidentally was the point you were making.

I think calling them rapists, and using infestation/invasion rhetoric on par with the Nazi dehumanisation of the Jews, is a pretty good example.

His dismantling of their justice service, replacing career politicians who've worked with both sides, for incompetent people who's only quality is loyalty to trump, is another sign of authoritarianism.
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An attempted ban on all muslims, calling countries ****holes, demeaning latinos may not be genocide, but it enables it.
He is also complicit in the dispossession of the Palistinians
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