[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the problem with this whole brexit debacle is that each side is personally insulting the other. It's a simple difference of opinion, and people do not need to justify or be pigeon holed in having that opinion, that is not how democracy works.

People have a difference of opinion, each side should accept it. Any close result is going to be contested, that again is democracy. The whole thing is just getting childish and silly. I am ashamed to be British at the moment, and it's not a good feeling

Enlightened centrism will get us nowhere and false equivalency just paints an equally false picture of what's going on.

This isn't a matter of opinion. There are reports by the government themselves that warn of the likely scenarios of no brexit and so far they've only been made to release the 'not-so-bad outcomes and they're still terrifying. We've been told by experts for years what will happen if Brexit is badly happened and Gove told the cult of Brexit to not pay attention to experts that told them things they didn't want to hear. If all the impartial sources are telling you the same thing, you listen.

Brexiters are willing to drive us all off a cliff just to 'own the remainers' and to feel a sense of victory. They are willing to cut their noses to spite us all, they are beyond reason and I should know because I am surrounded by them on a daily basis, Brexiters don't know what they pulling for because they aren't willing to listen to anything that doesn't please their delicate sensibilities. They think the grass will be greener on the other side despite the facts because they won't hear them.

To me, brexiters are akin to anti-vaxxers and Trump Supporters in that they've all lost touch with reality to chase a fantasy.

Ideally this whole nightmare will end with a compromise, leaving with a deal but the hardcore brexiters that want to doom us all out of spite will make that impossible.

Trying to make out that both sides are as bad as each other is a waste of time.