[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The queen is not queen of the uk, she is queen of england, scotland etc, therefore she has no stake in the game

Umm I'm afraid I don't think that's true at all. The UK is a nation - England and Scotland are only constituent countries within that nation. There is no such thing as the 'Queen of England' anymore.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Umm I'm afraid I don't think that's true at all. The UK is a nation - England and Scotland are only constituent countries within that nation. There is no such thing as the 'Queen of England' anymore.

Are you sure?

At the opening ceremony of the devolved Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh in 1999, attended by the Queen, the Presiding Officer Lord Steel said at the close of his opening address: "It is good that today, once again, we the elected representatives of the people are able to welcome your majesty, not only as Queen of the United Kingdom, but seated as you are among us, to greet you in the historic and constitutionally correct manner, with warmth and affection, as Queen of Scots."
Wikipedia

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Are you sure?

At the opening ceremony of the devolved Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh in 1999, attended by the Queen, the Presiding Officer Lord Steel said at the close of his opening address: "It is good that today, once again, we the elected representatives of the people are able to welcome your majesty, not only as Queen of the United Kingdom, but seated as you are among us, to greet you in the historic and constitutionally correct manner, with warmth and affection, as Queen of Scots."
Wikipedia

Well she is Queen of Scots by virtue of being Queen of the UK but that just sounds like ceremonial language anyway really tbh. We are a union of historic countries but the UK is the nation that the Queen is officially the head of

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well she is Queen of Scots by virtue of being Queen of the UK but that just sounds like ceremonial language anyway really tbh. We are a union of historic countries but the UK is the nation that the Queen is officially the head of

Nation means nationality ie english, scottish, welsh and irish

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Nation means nationality ie english, scottish, welsh and irish

Feel like you're kinda deliberately making a different argument here. Yeah some might like England or Scotland to be their own nations and choose to identify as English or Scottish but it's a fact of international law that the UK is the actual country, the Queen is the head of state of that country and British is the official nationality

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Feel like you're kinda deliberately making a different argument here. Yeah some might like England or Scotland to be their own nations and choose to identify as English or Scottish but it's a fact of international law that the UK is the actual country, the Queen is the head of state of that country and British is the official nationality

[MTVN]

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Umm I'm afraid I don't think that's true at all. The UK is a nation - England and Scotland are only constituent countries within that nation. There is no such thing as the 'Queen of England' anymore.

i admit that your statement has some merit