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06-11-2019, 10:52 AM | #26 | |||
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Go and compare the Middle East countries with Israel, and find out about women's freedom. Find out about religious freedom... it doesn't exist. And yet, Israel is home to not only Jews, but also Muslims and Christians. Imagining life for a woman generally in the Middle East allows them the same freedoms that Israel does is wrong. I know that doesn't fit the anti-Israel narrative. But hey... |
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06-11-2019, 10:52 AM | #27 | |||
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06-11-2019, 10:54 AM | #28 | |||
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No, it means that I'm surprised you're quite so anti-Israel when you weren't even acquainted with anti-Semitism. Leads me to question how you form your opinions. And actually, it makes me understand how anti-Semitic posts are allowed to remain on this forum until someone makes a fuss.
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06-11-2019, 10:55 AM | #29 | |||
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06-11-2019, 10:57 AM | #30 | |||
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06-11-2019, 10:57 AM | #31 | |||
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That's not true Niamh. Okay? I was wrong to say that. I should have said Israel is the only country in the Middle East (not Africa....) where women have political freedom and where their vote always counts, whether they're Jew, Arab... whatever they are.
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06-11-2019, 10:59 AM | #32 | |||
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06-11-2019, 11:01 AM | #33 | |||
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You're a moderator. I've seen awfully anti-Semitic things said on this forum and they've stayed there for ages. And yet in the "rules" it says not to tell you how to do your jobs, you see everything. I'm paraphrasing of course. I would expect one person from the moderation team might have picked something up as anti-Semitic.... but no. I don't really have anything else to add now... unless you do? |
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06-11-2019, 11:01 AM | #34 | |||
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06-11-2019, 11:03 AM | #35 | |||
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yeah i guess middle-east is correct
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and since 1992 they are a part of europe's UEFA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...ll_Association Quote:
and here it is arab-israeli conflict ongoing for 71 years, 5 months, 3 weeks and 1 day now since 1948 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Israeli_conflict
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06-11-2019, 11:04 AM | #36 | |||
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06-11-2019, 11:22 AM | #37 | |||
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Well, I've seen it all now castigated for reading through a thread... :/
I don't agree with the fake news tack you're adopting here, but I don't wish to be accused of anything for expressing a view. I think it's clear there is not equality for all living in Israel man or women until there is then there will always be unrest. That's my opinion.
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06-11-2019, 11:23 AM | #38 | |||
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I think these kind of accusations are a bad look all round. If people can't debate without going straight to the "you hate jews", then that's just as insulting to jews as anyone else. There is no borg-like jewish mind (and to say there was used to be an actual antisemitic trope, not a fake one}, and what made judaism a better approach to the madness of the Abrahamic faith was the openness to science and debate, and not accusing anyone that says something they don't like of being antisemitic. There are Jewish groups that oppose Israels policies and their system of apartheid, are those jews antisemitic or jew haters too?
Refusing to acknowledge the truth about what is happening makes people as closed minded as any of the fundamentalist mullahs they claim to be better than.
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06-11-2019, 11:42 AM | #39 | |||
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Among Palestinians, despair is widespread. “The times are rotten,” my nephew Aziz told me upon my return, echoing Hamlet. There is growing awareness here that Israel’s international campaign to demonise criticism of its colonial policies as a form of antisemitism is succeeding. And there is no hope to be found in Israel: none of the parties contesting the elections on Tuesday are talking about the occupation or proposing how to end it. Instead they are competing to see who can promise the most to the settlers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...tion-netanyahu
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06-11-2019, 12:38 PM | #40 | ||
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You can be against actions of this soldier without being antisemite. You can be against israel stealing occupied land without being antisemite |
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06-11-2019, 01:12 PM | #41 | ||
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The whole idea that saying anything critical of Israel is anti-semitic is just a way of silencing voices speaking out against the government and the administration that run it. You can criticise Trump without being xenophobic against the US, you can criticise the Tories without being anti-UK etc.
Accusing someone of being anti-semitic based on nothing is quite low and it undercuts the suffering of Jews by turning it into a cheap weapon to silence people with valid views. Critcising the human rights abuse that the Israel government have carried out against Palestinian citizens is not the same as hating jews and it's just incredibly bad faith to make it out to be. |
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07-11-2019, 10:08 AM | #42 | |||
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Call me a northern thicky but how do you claim democracy for a country divided into 3 enclaves with a different ruling body for each?
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07-11-2019, 01:22 PM | #43 | |||
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So, who actually shot who in the end?
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07-11-2019, 01:40 PM | #44 | ||
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07-11-2019, 02:06 PM | #45 | |||
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07-11-2019, 04:13 PM | #46 | |||
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In my life it did, by the time I read a few pages of off topic I was no wiser if it was a soldier shooting his girlfriend..or showing his girlfriend, or if it was some random woman, or maybe a woman soldier shooting an innocent random. I did however get the bit about it being rubber bullets...cos it got me singing to an old 10cc tune. |
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07-11-2019, 04:14 PM | #47 | |||
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07-11-2019, 04:16 PM | #48 | |||
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07-11-2019, 04:26 PM | #49 | |||
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07-11-2019, 04:38 PM | #50 | |||
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