[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So are you arguing that Cambridge, Imperial et al. are referrenced as often in pop culture as Oxford or Harvard? Or that it's irrelevant that Oxford/Harvard have become synonymous with "prestigious education" in pop fiction? Again I will point out that I'm not saying that ARE more academically prestigious - just they are specifically used as "plot point shortcuts" to flag academic excellence and that that sort of global subliminal messaging holds inherent value.

You're not offering any counter-argument to those points Cherie other than "Sorry not troo".

What are you offering, a survey of Americans? yours is personal opinion as well, at least I have league tables to back up my view, where is your confirmation that Americans have never heard of Cambridge?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What are you offering, a survey of Americans? yours is personal opinion as well, at least I have league tables to back up my view, where is your confirmation that Americans have never heard of Cambridge?

I didn't say that Americans have never heard of Cambridge, I said that Oxford is referenced in pop culture as being synonymous with academic prestige and the evidence is COUNTLESS movies, television shows and other pop culture references globally not just in the US and I've also explained why league tables are irrelevant and thus not counter-evidence. My argument is patently NOT that Oxford is at the top of the league tables? It's honestly not my fault that you don't understand what I'm getting at Cherie.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't say that Americans have never heard of Cambridge, I said that Oxford is referenced in pop culture as being synonymous with academic prestige and the evidence is COUNTLESS movies, television shows and other pop culture references globally not just in the US and I've also explained why league tables are irrelevant and thus not counter-evidence. My argument is patently NOT that Oxford is at the top of the league tables? It's honestly not my fault that you don't understand what I'm getting at Cherie.

You have rambled away completely from the question in the OP and we are only on page 2

Which is the better uni? he didn’t ask how it’s perceived by lay people, not my fault you didn’t comprehend the question TS

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You have rambled away completely from the question in the OP and we are only on page 2



Which is the better uni? he didn’t ask how it’s perceived by lay people, not my fault you didn’t comprehend the question TS

"Better" is completely subjective; Perception of alumni is (in my opinion) hugely important when it comes to weighing up the options. I personally would say its more important than the quality of teaching because, sadly, very little comes down to merit in the world... It's all about image. And nepotism.