[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Will she need to go back there to do that?

I don't know.. that would be awful, it might be something they could do in her absence seeing as they have a time line of procedures that weren't followed correctly.
If she does I can't see her doing it, she's been through enough. This does need looking at from the beginning again though so who knows? what a nightmare.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't know.. that would be awful, it might be something they could do in her absence seeing as they have a time line of procedures that weren't followed correctly.
If she does I can't see her doing it, she's been through enough. This does need looking at from the beginning again though so who knows? what a nightmare.

I'd be terrified to go back in case things go wrong

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd be terrified to go back in case things go wrong

True, but she has an amazing amount of support across the globe so that's great to see and might spur her on?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

True, but she has an amazing amount of support across the globe so that's great to see and might spur her on?

Oh yes it's fantastic, and more brave women like her are needed to stand up for herself because she's not really just standing up for herself, she's standing up for all girls and women

[Tom4784]

Let's hope that this ordeal leads to a light being shone on Cyprus' legal system and it's corruption. The judge in question apparently has mishandled rape cases before so I'm hoping that, with all the spotlight on this one, there's consequences for him.

[Nicky91]

very confusing case this one

good for the girl she didn't lie and Always told the truth, i Always knew the guys were in the wrong (if not for the rape, then for the filming without consent but now they are for both) also good she can go home


as for the cypriot justice system i won't say anything too much about them, since the last big case before this one they did handle that properly

[Niamh.]

The thing about it is, how likely is it really that any girl (even if she's drunk and I don't know if she was or not) would think oh yeah i would love to have 12 strangers(or 12 non strangers either for that matter) have sex with me? It's not going to be an enjoyable or pleasant experience for her and it's just so highly unlikely that she consented to being passed around and humiliated like a piece of meat. It's so weird that (mostly) men think that this is something that a girl would like or enjoy at the time but then "have regrets" later in the light of day

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The thing about it is, how likely is it really that any girl (even if she's drunk and I don't know if she was or not) would think oh yeah i would love to have 12 strangers(or 12 non strangers either for that matter) have sex with me? It's not going to be an enjoyable or pleasant experience for her and it's just so highly unlikely that she consented to being passed around and humiliated like a piece of meat. It's so weird that (mostly) men think that this is something that a girl would like or enjoy at the time but then "have regrets" later in the light of day

i don't know any group of normal guys that would line up one after the other to have sex with a girl, particularly if she were drunk. That in itself should be a clue as to the character of the men involved

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't know any group of normal guys that would line up one after the other to have sex with a girl, particularly if she were drunk. That in itself should be a clue as to the character of the men involved

she was filmed having sex with one I think so how do you or neem know if any others had sex with her?

as i recall 3 had time dated picture evidence that they were not even there at the time?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't know any group of normal guys that would line up one after the other to have sex with a girl, particularly if she were drunk. That in itself should be a clue as to the character of the men involved

Yeah I hope that's the case too BOTs that most normal guys wouldn't find the idea of doing that appealing but what I mean is how come when it somes to cases like this alot of men and even some women are so quick to jump to the conclusion that the girl must have consented and then later regretted it? I mean it just seems so highly unlikely that she would want to do that, you know?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think she agreed to have sex with "his mate" from what I've read she was having a holiday romance (or so she thought) with one of the boys and he was the only one she agreed to have sex with

yes as I understand it she was having sex with one of the men who she considered her boyfriend and the rest starting banging on the hotel room door and bragged before hand about having an orgy with the English girl, apparently there is a video circulating as well where they filmed both him and her without consent

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Let's hope that this ordeal leads to a light being shone on Cyprus' legal system and it's corruption. The judge in question apparently has mishandled rape cases before so I'm hoping that, with all the spotlight on this one, there's consequences for him.

Yes "many" who have been in Cyprus
and were on Live LBC telling us
of the Corruption of the Police,

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she was filmed having sex with one I think so how do you or neem know if any others had sex with her?

as i recall 3 had time dated picture evidence that they were not even there at the time?

As far as I'm aware 3 of them readily admitted to having sex with her

[Cherie]

some of these 'men' are 16

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As far as I'm aware 3 of them readily admitted to having sex with her

Yes they say DNA evidence

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As far as I'm aware 3 of them readily admitted to having sex with her

so why did she claim 12 did ?

[LeatherTrumpet]

3 were actually with their gfs at the time as i recall

[LeatherTrumpet]

and she was drunk yes or on drugs. they all were

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so why did she claim 12 did ?

Because she obviously thinks more than 3 raped her? It's not hard to figure out LT


This is from the first Doctor who saw her after the attack (what motivation would he have to lie? :

Cypriot doctor Sergios Sergiou, who was one of the first people to see the young woman in the moments after the incident, said he felt she was telling the truth, adding that she was so distraught she passed out.

In the early hours of July 17, the teenager was taken to the Santa Marina clinic which is adjacent to the two-star Pambos Napa Rocks hotel where the alleged attack took place.

Her friend had taken her to the doctor when she found her ‘distraught’ and terrified that the ‘Israeli boys were coming for her’ after she managed to escape the room. Dr Sergiou said: ‘She was very stressed and having a panic attack. She was crying and screaming and her friends said to me some guys had raped her.

‘I asked her (what happened) but she did not speak to me. She was crying and she said, “I don’t want men next to me”. When I went to check her and see if she’s okay, she said to me, “go away from me”. That’s when I called the police because at the time it’s not something I could treat.’

Asked if he believed she was attacked, he told Israeli TV: ‘Yes, I thought that something happened. Usually if something is fake they are not calling their parents to inform them. But she was calling her parents.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rl-Cyprus.html

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so why did she claim 12 did ?

Read the op... there was a group of 12 suspects, not 12 rapists.
What's them potentially being drunk got to do with rape?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Because she obviously thinks more than 3 raped her? It's not hard to figure out LT


This is from the first Doctor who saw her after the attack (what motivation would he have to lie? :

Cypriot doctor Sergios Sergiou, who was one of the first people to see the young woman in the moments after the incident, said he felt she was telling the truth, adding that she was so distraught she passed out.

In the early hours of July 17, the teenager was taken to the Santa Marina clinic which is adjacent to the two-star Pambos Napa Rocks hotel where the alleged attack took place.

Her friend had taken her to the doctor when she found her ‘distraught’ and terrified that the ‘Israeli boys were coming for her’ after she managed to escape the room. Dr Sergiou said: ‘She was very stressed and having a panic attack. She was crying and screaming and her friends said to me some guys had raped her.

‘I asked her (what happened) but she did not speak to me. She was crying and she said, “I don’t want men next to me”. When I went to check her and see if she’s okay, she said to me, “go away from me”. That’s when I called the police because at the time it’s not something I could treat.’

Asked if he believed she was attacked, he told Israeli TV: ‘Yes, I thought that something happened. Usually if something is fake they are not calling their parents to inform them. But she was calling her parents.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rl-Cyprus.html

"said he felt she was telling the truth"

im afraid that is just a feeling and another doctor could have felt she was full of BS. There was a report that she has made this accusation in the past and received compensation for it but i have not seen this confirmed since? (it was in the Times of Israel)

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and she was drunk yes or on drugs. they all were

If this was a family member, would you say these things to her?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If this was a family member, would you say these things to her?

I am reporting from news articles that conformed that she only had a hazy memory of what happened as she was drunk on drugs and accused the boys of all being inebriated.

If it was a famly member I would find out for damn sure who drunk or took what, deffo

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"said he felt she was telling the truth"

im afraid that is just a feeling and another doctor could have felt she was full of BS. There was a report that she has made this accusation in the past and received compensation for it but i have not seen this confirmed since? (it was in the Times of Israel)

Oh the Times of Israel is it, that wouldn't be a bit biassed considering where the boys were from pfft I'm sure if that had any truth to it it would have been splashed all over the British newspapers too, they love a bit of slut shaming.......

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh the Times of Israel is it, that wouldn't be a bit biassed considering where the boys were from pfft I'm sure if that had any truth to it it would have been splashed all over the British newspapers too, they love a bit of slut shaming.......

not really its a good paper and they have condemned the boys for celebrating etc, they also have investigated the angle about the gas pipeline etc,

I dont think either side comes out of this with much grace and i mean the boys, her or the cypriots

but its a small tourist island and to try and pretend is the UK and if you get into trouble with the law its all going to be just like if it was at home is crazy.