[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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Are you insulting her posting count? She doesn't need to post in the LI thread to be a fan. Shes behind so doesn't want to be spoiled. You may also see Jessica isn't in the uk so cant watch it live.


Anyway, Namh your thoughts are just as important as anyones.

For me I don't think it should be cancelled but maybe a better check on the mental health background of the cast.

[Shaun]

strong returning-banned-member vibes from that one, btw

[bots]

i don't watch the show, so i couldn't care less if it were axed or not.

ITV 2 is not on my watched channel list, so it's not like it would end up being replaced by something i would watch

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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How ridiculous.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

Yep, agree with all that. I wouldn't normally be one for saying a programme I don't like should be cancelled because I can just not watch it but I do think programmes like this one send out awful messages to young people

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep, agree with all that. I wouldn't normally be one for saying a programme I don't like should be cancelled because I can just not watch it but I do think programmes like this one send out awful messages to young people

That’s a perfectly reasonable stance to take and whilst you may be right .. we just don’t know .

We do know that millions of people regularly look forward and watch each and every episode/ series though .


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s a perfectly reasonable stance to take and whilst you may be right .. we just don’t know .

We do know that millions of people regularly look forward and watch each and every episode/ series though .


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I wouldn't really be bothered about adults tbf, it's just when I think about younger teenage girls and boys (or even younger) watching it, thinking that these contestants are people to be copied or looked up to.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't really be bothered about adults tbf, it's just when I think about younger teenage girls and boys (or even younger) watching it, thinking that these contestants are people to be copied or looked up to.

Tbf that’s been going on for years and li shouldn’t be only one getting the blame. The media shames people who don’t look attractive without make up, if they gain weight there’s loads of articles about it and women are pitted against each other. We all see it and that can make a impact on others. These young people are also thinking the kardashians are to be copied and looked up which promotes plastic surgery.

People are shamed on li for having it done and taking the piss pre-surgery. More needs to be done about social media and tabloids which are the real issue.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't really be bothered about adults tbf, it's just when I think about younger teenage girls and boys (or even younger) watching it, thinking that these contestants are people to be copied or looked up to.

The same can be said for so many tv shows though .. isn’t there one that compares and judges faces ??


Oddly enough they regularly show women without makeup when they’re removing it at night and when they awake in the mornings so it can’t be argued that they only show perfection.

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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Tbf that’s been going on for years and li shouldn’t be only one getting the blame. The media shames people who don’t look attractive without make up, if they gain weight there’s loads of articles about it and women are competed against each other. We all see it and that can make a impact on others. These young people are also thinking the kardashians are to be copied and looked up which promotes plastic surgery.

People are shamed on li for having it done and taking the piss pre-surgery. More needs to be done about social media and tabloids which are the real issue.

Yeah, it's definitely a wider problem than just this show

Originally Posted by Zizu

The same can be said for so many tv shows though .. isn’t there one that compares and judges faces ??


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Is there? What show is that?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, it's definitely a wider problem than just this show



Is there? What show is that?

Your Face or Mine. Couples go on, their partner is matched against a member of the public or one of their exes, and they have to guess who the audience thought was more attractive. They win money for guessing correctly.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Your Face or Mine. Couples go on, their partner is matched against a member of the public or one of their exes, and they have to guess who the audience thought was more attractive. They win money for guessing correctly.

Oh god, that sounds pretty bad

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh god, that sounds pretty bad

Yes I’d agree . I’m sure there are many other examples but they don’t appeal to me so I really can’t be certain.


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[Cal.]

They’ve aired a series now in 2020. They should rest it until summer 2021 now.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That is obvious.

Look at The JK show , it took a suicide for them to Axe! that. And that was a mockery freak show.

LI is extremely superficial & shallow , producers don't care about the mental health of these people. They're just pieces of meat to them.

Tbh with how vile The JK Show could be, I'm amazed that it didn't have more suicides.

[Saph]

I mean LI is hardly that bad itself.. its the local fans that are the problem

X Factor etc literally take the piss out of innocent people and parade the on TV for a laugh at their expense and nothing ever gets said about that because its marketed as a family friendly show

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Zizu

If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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She has posted in the discussion thread.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I don't think it's the show itself but more the people who watch it and the platform they have to spew their poison.

Love Island Twitter has become a cesspool as the show's gotten bigger each year. Even when producers try to cast more diverse types, you have Fiat 500 being racist or body-shaming for clout. Leanne was being compared to a monkey as soon as her promo pics were released and people have been body-shaming Shaughna's legs the entire series.

The thing with Love Island is that social media plays a big part in its success compared to other reality shows. From the nightly twitter commentary to contestant post-show fame being mainly concentrated on Instagram so they're exposed to all the negativity.

It's why the show was better in its early series before it blew up and everyone started watching and tweeting about it.

I think the rot has set in for the show anyway. Suicide controversies aside, having two series a year will oversaturate the brand and this current winter series hasn't been that good, it's also the first where ratings have fallen. It's become a victim of its success like BB did.

But why is LI attracting such a vicious Social Media base? BB fans could be bad on there, but never to the point of Housemates killing themselves.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But why is LI attracting such a vicious Social Media base? BB fans could be bad on there, but never to the point of Housemates killing themselves.

All shows attracts all these kind of abuse. It's just how social media is these days and nothing is really done about it, a show can't be blamed for what trolls and vile people do online. twitter/fb are more responsible for that by not really doing anything about it. it's shocking. Yeah the accounts get suspended and banned but you can make another account straight away.

Instagram has this thing where you can turn comments off or control the comment, anything negative will be automatically deleted, which is a great thing to do and other platforms should learn.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

All shows attracts all these kind of abuse. It's just how social media is these days and nothing is really done about it, a show can't be blamed for what trolls and vile people do online. twitter/fb are more responsible for that by not really doing anything about it. it's shocking. Yeah the accounts get suspended and banned but you can make another account straight away.

Instagram has this thing where you can turn comments off or control the comment, anything negative will be automatically deleted, which is a great thing to do and other platforms should learn.

That's a good system from Instagram.

Yeah Twitter and Facebook need better moderating, because half of the **** that gets said on those platforms would see any of us banned on here, and rightly so imo.

And how does Twitter and Facebook not keep a better track of multiple accounts? If a member has been banned off the site, then they should be keeping an eye out on them possibly coming back on under a different name.

And to me any Show that has 3 suicides in the space of 5 or 6 years would make me think that there's something wrong with the programme.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Saph

I mean LI is hardly that bad itself.. its the local fans that are the problem

X Factor etc literally take the piss out of innocent people and parade the on TV for a laugh at their expense and nothing ever gets said about that because its marketed as a family friendly show

yep

X Factor actually got someone on with mental illness and broadcasted their audition. The obvious was Shirlena Johnson, i do admit laughing at her performance when it aired but looking back i don't know how she got on the show, how it was shown and how she got through. She was axed before bootcamp over fears for her mental health which i assume was before x factor started and they still broadcasted her audition.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's a good system from Instagram.

Yeah Twitter and Facebook need better moderating, because half of the **** that gets said on those platforms would see any of us banned on here, and rightly so imo.

And how does Twitter and Facebook not keep a better track of multiple accounts? If a member has been banned off the site, then they should be keeping an eye out on them possibly coming back on under a different name.

And to me any Show that has 3 suicides in the space of 5 or 6 years would make me think that there's something wrong with the programme.

Flack's death had nothing to do with the show, that's pretty obvious by now. Anybody who thinks otherwise clearly hates the show that much.

With Mike, it was his behaviour on Celebs go Dating that received a lot of backlash. He behaved like an utter jerk on that show, worse than he behaved on LI and he was slated on social media every night. He was probably told to behave like that for the controversy and ratings because he was noting like that on LI. (but should we blame that show, nope let's just blame LI) Mike had been struggling to come to terms with the deaths of both his best friend and his grandmother over a short space of time. All of that plus being referred to as ''muggy'' by the press clearly took its toll on him.

Sophie had a history of mental health problems. She had been diagnosed with depression and low self-esteem in 2013 and was taking medication for social anxiety disorder at the time of her death. Nothing to do with the show itself. If the show was that bad then there would be more suicides. The aftercare has obviously improved since Mike's death. There hasn't been any contestants who've committed suicide last year, or even the year before that too when Sophie died.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Saph

I mean LI is hardly that bad itself.. its the local fans that are the problem

X Factor etc literally take the piss out of innocent people and parade the on TV for a laugh at their expense and nothing ever gets said about that because its marketed as a family friendly show

It was one of the reasons I stopped watching it tbh (among other things)

[Jessica.]

Yeah, X Factor became way less light hearted after a while, it seemed more and more like they were exploiting people and it took the fun out of it for me, I couldn't continue watching.

[Jigs]

Love Island is a great springboard for so many young people to carve a career for themselves and to be successful. Although this is a good thing, I do feel like the show itself has become tainted by the tragedies of Sophie, Mike and Caroline. On top of this, I find the show to be really one-note (same villa, similar challenges, same carbon copies of past contestants, etc.) so I feel like the longer it airs, the less impact it's going to have and the less beneficial it's going to be for those who go on it. Therefore, the less beneficial it becomes for the contestants = the less purpose/place it has on national TV.

I don't think it should be cancelled because of the deaths, but I definitely feel it should wrap up sooner rather than later because I don't fully see the point of having a problematic show continue to air when all that says about us is that we prioritise our own entertainment over the well-being of those people we find our entertainment from. It would be a gesture that doesn't necessary reflect any degree of failure for the show, but moreso a gesture of respect that punctuates the franchise with a more positive note which, despite the sombre circumstances of the cancellation, would signify some sort of notion like "This was great while it lasted, made a huge impact, but now it's time to move on to something new."