[Livia]

My view is that Ant was treated with a little more compassion; there was more talk about his mental health and his alcoholism, there seemed to be more empathy for him. Whereas the immediate knee-jerk reaction after Caroline's arrest was more focused on hoping she wouldn't be let off a domestic violence charge just because she's a woman. As far as I remember, most of the venom towards Ant online was from his ex-wife.

I might have that wrong, but it;s my take on it.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

My view is that Ant was treated with a little more compassion; there was more talk about his mental health and his alcoholism, there seemed to be more empathy for him. Whereas the immediate knee-jerk reaction after Caroline's arrest was more focused on hoping she wouldn't be let off a domestic violence charge just because she's a woman. As far as I remember, most of the venom towards Ant online was from his ex-wife.



I might have that wrong, but it;s my take on it.

I also cant remember seeing much bad said online at what Ant had done because I remember at the time it just didnt sit right with me, he had broken the law and endangered others, not that I'm saying anyone deserves 'hate'.

I dont think all famous people are treated equally.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

I also cant remember seeing much bad said online at what Ant had done because I remember at the time it just didnt sit right with me, he had broken the law and endangered others, not that I'm saying anyone deserves 'hate'.

I dont think all famous people are treated equally.

Do you think it's a male/female thing?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do you think it's a male/female thing?

That's what was in my mind when I was discussing it earlier, I'm not sure and would like to hope not but it does come across that way at times.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's what was in my mind when I was discussing it earlier, I'm not sure and would like to hope not but it does come across that way at times.

It feels like, the more equality women get, the more it is resented and they have to pay in other ways.

Not a celebrity I know... but I have to say I'm delighted at the responses on here to the female Para who's just passed P Company. Nice to have a really positive story like that. Wish the rest of the Internet looked at it the same.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

It feels like, the more equality women get, the more it is resented and they have to pay in other ways.

Not a celebrity I know... but I have to say I'm delighted at the responses on here to the female Para who's just passed P Company. Nice to have a really positive story like that. Wish the rest of the Internet looked at it the same.

It's a culture war. Look at the incel movement, tradwives.
The internet gave voice to those opposing progress and equality for women.
Same goes for minorities.
They will not win. But the mischief they create causes issues.

That's not the whole problem of course but a part of it.

[Ammi]

....females in general are often held up to a higher standard in society than males are...Meghan/Harry is a huge example of that...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's what was in my mind when I was discussing it earlier, I'm not sure and would like to hope not but it does come across that way at times.

I'm not sure it always is, I think it depends on the circumstances and how much that person was liked beforehand. I think if a celebrity is very much liked beforehand then it will take a male celebrity doing a lot more bad things before public opinion turns on them than it would for a female celebrity though.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not sure it always is, I think it depends on the circumstances and how much that person was liked beforehand. I think if a celebrity is very much liked beforehand then it will take a male celebrity doing a lot more bad things before public opinion turns on them than it would for a female celebrity though.

...yeah, pretty much my thoughts...with Ant for instance...?...he had such a support from the media and public of being a ‘national treasure’ type beforehand, so that very much allowed him ‘recovery’ as well, it left more scope for it..?..whereas with many celebrities, they’re not held in very high regard from either the public or the media...reality TV celebrities are a good example of that...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

My view is that Ant was treated with a little more compassion; there was more talk about his mental health and his alcoholism, there seemed to be more empathy for him. Whereas the immediate knee-jerk reaction after Caroline's arrest was more focused on hoping she wouldn't be let off a domestic violence charge just because she's a woman. As far as I remember, most of the venom towards Ant online was from his ex-wife.

I might have that wrong, but it;s my take on it.

Just from daily mail when I've scanned Ant stories in the past the comments are full of hate for his (now ex) mrs rather than him. Despite, apart from the facts of Ant's addiction and drink driving conviction we don't actually know anything about the circumstances of their relationship really. But she got immediate hate for "not supporting him". People can be crazy.