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Old 15-06-2020, 11:12 AM #3101
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14 days jail for urinating in public...for a white bloke.

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14 days jail for urinating in public...for a white bloke.
His Dad said he thought he was going to a BLM march, and the young lad (28) didn't realise where he was peeing.

He is a TH supporter so one of the football lads, you would think he would know better given the Club he supports
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I think this is more about making an example of someone.
The law does come up with some odd sentences at times.

Then again we don't know if there were other things that influenced this sentence.

He must have had poor legal representation, he didn't actually urinate on the memorial.

I'd guess myself, with the location of it being where it is, it will have had a fair bit of attention of Dogs out with their owners.

I thought a heavy fine would come not a custodial.
Surprised I am.
However in the current volatile high tensioned climate, maybe I shouldn't be.
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urinating in the street is an offence ... exposing ones private parts in public is an offence so if the guy had some previous history, a short custodial sentence wouldn't be unreasonable
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urinating in the street is an offence ... exposing ones private parts in public is an offence so if the guy had some previous history, a short custodial sentence wouldn't be unreasonable
We, who work in law sometimes cannot get muggers locked up, or even serious shoplifters.

It is an offence and of course we don't know if he had previous history.
I can only assume he has however, and that you're on the right track in that for him to get a custodial.

If anyone thinks, especially at present, with Stores being closed, virtually few or even no public toilets, well,public toilets aren't open anyway during this lockdown, however if anyone thinks people aren't left right and centre, relieving themselves in public places..
They'd be sadly mistaken.

In fact Mr Cummings on his sight testing drive had to stop for his son's toilet break in the open, well bushes.
He says.
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We, who work in law sometimes cannot get muggers locked up, or even serious shoplifters.

It is an offence and of course we don't know if he had previous history.
I can only assume he has however, and that you're on the right track in that for him to get a custodial.

If anyone thinks, especially at present, with Stores being closed, virtually few or even no public toilets, well,public toilets aren't open anyway during this lockdown, however if anyone thinks people aren't left right and centre, relieving themselves in public places..
They'd be sadly mistaken.

In fact Mr Cummings on his sight testing drive had to stop for his son's toilet break in the open, well bushes.
He says.
( Couldn't resist that sorry).
the guy apparently had drunk something like 16 pints the night before and was still drunk, so, add drunk and disorderly into the mix too ....

I remember my brother in his youth got caught having a pee down a side street and he got a night in a cell and a fine for a first offence
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Seems like a ridiculous sentence to me. No one should be sent to prison for having a pee, even in the streets, and even if he'd pee'd directly onto the memorial.

Seems like they're trying to send a message about the crazy sentences that will follow before it's all over.

Could have been the perfect opportunity to utilise community service. Send him to work with a minority charity for a couple of weeks, but no one benefits from him being in prison.
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Seems like a ridiculous sentence to me. No one should be sent to prison for having a pee, even in the streets, and even if he'd pee'd directly onto the memorial.

Seems like they're trying to send a message about the crazy sentences that will follow before it's all over.

Could have been the perfect opportunity to utilise community service. Send him to work with a minority charity for a couple of weeks, but no one benefits from him being in prison.


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Seems like a ridiculous sentence to me. No one should be sent to prison for having a pee, even in the streets, and even if he'd pee'd directly onto the memorial.

Seems like they're trying to send a message about the crazy sentences that will follow before it's all over.

Could have been the perfect opportunity to utilise community service. Send him to work with a minority charity for a couple of weeks, but no one benefits from him being in prison.
I fully agree.

It can be assumed he had previous but in the absence of that as a fact, we can't apply that with certainty, this sentence is in my view, a 'making an example of'exercise.

As you say community service would have been far more appropriate.
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They are sending a message, if he got community service it would be too soft

His life is basically ruined, he is an unemployed chef who will take him on now?
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I fully agree.

It can be assumed he had previous but in the absence of that as a fact, we can't apply that with certainty, this sentence is in my view, a 'making an example of'exercise.

As you say community service would have been far more appropriate.
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I've just been texted that from a friend, thank you too Slim.

Really is too severe.
Sadly these inconsistencies happen.
No reason for a custodial, it is making an example of him.

Other than in the climate of these protests happening, no way would it have been the sentence.
Harsh in my view
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I've just been texted that from a friend, thank you too Slim.

Really is too severe.
Sadly these inconsistencies happen.
No reason for a custodial, it is making an example of him.

Other than in the climate of these protests happening, no way would it have been the sentence.
Harsh in my view
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Have they identified the street louts who threw the Bristol statue in the harbour.hopefuy they will get a longer sentence?
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I mean the idiot even handed himself in to the police, yet all media and politicians praising the police for their swift actions in finding the culprit.

Politics should never, ever come Into the judicial system, but its obvious that it has this time.a
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back on topic and new video that i don't know if it has been posted yet, but it's ****ing ridiculous ... the police need to go away for a long time

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28 is a bit old to be blaming it on a night on the drink.
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He's still kneeling on him when he's quite blatantly already dead. Ffs. The sort of mindset that would be required to do that is really quite terrifying.
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oops I'm so sorry Slim.

I'll rephrase it.

I've just had another friend text me that.

Really sorry, of course we are Slim and I'm glad we are.
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He's still kneeling on him when he's quite blatantly already dead. Ffs. The sort of mindset that would be required to do that is really quite terrifying.
one of the policemen's lawyers said if there was a problem, why didn't the public say anything, so that's why this video was released
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oops I'm so sorry Slim.

I'll rephrase it.

I've just had another friend text me that.

Really sorry, of course we are Slim and I'm glad we are.
It's all good, I knew what you meant.
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back on topic and new video that i don't know if it has been posted yet, but it's ****ing ridiculous ... the police need to go away for a long time

********* not for the sensitive *********************

Well the lawyer for one of them is using the defence that it's the lublics fault and they should tackle officers with armed weapons
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