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Old 21-07-2020, 01:46 PM #22
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...it may be that there is a connection to Trump or Epstein etc..?...but atm that’s a ‘theory’ that isn’t being investigated or reported so far as I can see...so I find it quite upsetting that it feels as though his extreme hatred for females is being pushed aside or overlooked....and this is ABOUT A MAN...everything I read about him points to him being someone who was filled with hate for females and especially females of minority race, it would seem...and yeah, I’m hearing more and more about this type of ‘incel’ person and I think that should be the focus very much as well...that these Extreme hateful feelings toward women do exist...
I don't think it has to be one or the other; these hateful individuals are very real obviously and it's an unhinged and potentially dangerous mindset that should absolutely be taken VERY seriously. However, individuals who are already filled with anger & hatred are easy targets for extreme action if someone wants to arm them, rile them up & point them in the right direction, as we know all too well from religious extremism and terrorist actions. Yes, half of the story is the hatred and violence of that individual. The other half is the people in the background pointing them in the direction of "somewhere to express that hatred" and strapping a bomb to their chest, which can be either literal or metaphorical. These incel groups, if you look at them, are extremist groups. They have their beliefs and their dogma and their "bibles" even... it's not all that different to a religious extremism at all. Maybe it's partly because the "incel stuff" isn't a new thing for me at all, I've known about it and encountered these warped individuals online for years.

So I think all of what you say can be true, with it still being worth asking "why THIS person being targetted at THIS moment" when it seems a little too convenient for her to be targetted for other reasons. The hatred and the desire to hurt & destroy was all his, but did someone give him the means and point him in the right direction? It's worth considering.

The Jill Dando stuff is not a conspiracy theory by the way; the "unhinged stalker fan" who was jailed for her killing had the conviction removed and the police officially ruled it a professional assassination, years after the event. They just don't know by who, or why. But she was investigating paedophilia at the BBC long before the Saville scandal broke, so I'd say it's easy enough to draw a conclusion, even if it can't be proved.

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