[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think it has to be one or the other; these hateful individuals are very real obviously and it's an unhinged and potentially dangerous mindset that should absolutely be taken VERY seriously. However, individuals who are already filled with anger & hatred are easy targets for extreme action if someone wants to arm them, rile them up & point them in the right direction, as we know all too well from religious extremism and terrorist actions. Yes, half of the story is the hatred and violence of that individual. The other half is the people in the background pointing them in the direction of "somewhere to express that hatred" and strapping a bomb to their chest, which can be either literal or metaphorical. These incel groups, if you look at them, are extremist groups. They have their beliefs and their dogma and their "bibles" even... it's not all that different to a religious extremism at all. Maybe it's partly because the "incel stuff" isn't a new thing for me at all, I've known about it and encountered these warped individuals online for years.

So I think all of what you say can be true, with it still being worth asking "why THIS person being targetted at THIS moment" when it seems a little too convenient for her to be targetted for other reasons. The hatred and the desire to hurt & destroy was all his, but did someone give him the means and point him in the right direction? It's worth considering.

The Jill Dando stuff is not a conspiracy theory by the way; the "unhinged stalker fan" who was jailed for her killing had the conviction removed and the police officially ruled it a professional assassination, years after the event. They just don't know by who, or why. But she was investigating paedophilia at the BBC long before the Saville scandal broke, so I'd say it's easy enough to draw a conclusion, even if it can't be proved.

...but asking that question...(...which atm is not been pondered by any officials or media so far as I know or can see...)...without taking a moments thought for her and that this may have devastated her life because she is a woman and no other reason...feels very dismissive and I can’t imagine an horrific incident even Remotely similar to this where we could have thought ...’this only happened because he was a man and his family was targeted by a woman filled with extreme hate and prejudice because of his gender...’....


....I’m aware of Jill Dando, her death has no bearing on this at all...