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07-09-2020, 01:14 PM | #176 | |||
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@MeetDaye are an organic tampon subscription box service, and they're running a survey on the shared experience of menstruation. This survey is inclusive of #trans identities and they'd love to hear from people of all genders!
Just not women apparently
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07-09-2020, 01:34 PM | #177 | ||
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I think they forgot to tell the person who wrote the survey then, because ALL of the questions are clearly geared towards trans men/non-binary. They don't even make sense in any other context.
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07-09-2020, 01:40 PM | #178 | |||
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there are alot of gray areas that need alot of attention and looking at, and in instances above I would say being separate would be the kindest option?
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07-09-2020, 01:53 PM | #179 | |||
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Is it not the same, Where is the debate on this?
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07-09-2020, 02:07 PM | #180 | |||
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My solution is to feature both on the box, that for me would be truly inclusive. To just erase one as a solution without acknowledging the reason for the change is not progress.
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07-09-2020, 02:16 PM | #181 | |||
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Maybe instead of "man" and "woman" the biological terms "male" and "female" should be used? That way they're included if they identify as the opposite to their sex. |
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07-09-2020, 04:37 PM | #182 | |||
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....hmmm, I don’t know with the survey because it does read like erasing/excluding of ‘woman’....which is very odd for a survey about menstruation etc...I think though, is all I can figure, anyway../...as TS said .. ‘ALL of the questions are clearly geared towards /otherwise they don’t make sense....’...so for a specific reason of trying to be all inclusive as much as possible and so frequent surveys to be able to always include all...
...a slogan of Daye seems to be... ‘It's a new Daye in all things female health’...they have a great website actually because they say how long a read, a certain section will be as well..(5 min read /8 min read etc..)..an ‘advice/help’ section and they have many sections and much advice ...so they do seem to be very much encompassing of all ...they have a section ‘Women’s Health’...and then under that they have things like...‘How Ovarian Transplants May Be The Future Of Menopause Treatment‘...and.... ‘Why Are Black Women Disproportionately Affected By BV & Thrush?‘...I didn’t know that black women were affected more, it’s all very informative stuff and very much supporting of womanhood, I think...another section is ‘Sustainability’...and looks at how eco-friendly etc...’Cultural Musings’ is another section...with a topic of... ‘How To Be Believed When Doctors Take Women’s Pain Less Seriously‘...so really supportive of all things woman, Daye seems to be...yeah the survey is odd and feels quite excluding but it must be targeting something specific, is the only thing I can think... https://yourdaye.com/ |
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07-09-2020, 05:00 PM | #183 | |||
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07-09-2020, 05:02 PM | #184 | |||
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07-09-2020, 05:06 PM | #185 | ||
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You don't think there's an issue. That's fine.
Others having a different viewpoint is not transphobic. It's a childish way of trying to close the discussion. |
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07-09-2020, 05:29 PM | #186 | |||
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It’s not transphobic to be confused over the change. It is transphobic to say that transmen are females and the change should be reverted. That’s not a childish way to shut down an argument. That’s a fact to eat up and accept or ignorantly ignore
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07-09-2020, 05:34 PM | #187 | ||
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It's not in anyway transphobic to say that transmen who menstruate still have their female biology. That's just a basic fact regardless of how people "feel". Pussyfooting around feelings with anything does not change reality. Last edited by Marsh.; 07-09-2020 at 05:35 PM. |
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07-09-2020, 05:49 PM | #188 | |||
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Hmm you're very invested in this discussion but when it comes to removing the word male you couldnt care less? OK.
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07-09-2020, 05:52 PM | #189 | |||
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Again you are skirting around the issue. It doesn't help anyone removing text...add text. Say they are for women and transmen, what's the issue with that?
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07-09-2020, 06:17 PM | #190 | |||
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Yep, can't see how anyone could have a reasonable objection to that?
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07-09-2020, 09:19 PM | #191 | |||
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I'm not sure what you mean by this? I've not heard a single reason not to use "sexed language", boiling it down to biology gets rid of needing to dance around the way people identify.
Some females might identify as men or "nonbinary" lol but they'll never be not female... Last edited by Oliver_W; 07-09-2020 at 09:23 PM. |
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07-09-2020, 09:58 PM | #192 | |||
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Every human needs to feel important.
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07-09-2020, 10:27 PM | #193 | |||
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07-09-2020, 10:37 PM | #194 | |||
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The only people that would have an issue with that would be some TERFs as some of them argue ‘Woman’ encompasses both of those
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08-09-2020, 05:34 AM | #195 | |||
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08-09-2020, 02:08 PM | #196 | |||
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08-09-2020, 02:10 PM | #197 | |||
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Why is always "woman" though? never man
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08-09-2020, 02:12 PM | #198 | |||
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08-09-2020, 02:12 PM | #199 | |||
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probably something to do with transwomen being raised with male socialization, and demanding things be changed to accommodate them? That's one theory I've heard as to why you don't hear much from transmen.
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08-09-2020, 02:13 PM | #200 | |||
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or even better m?n
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