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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's a strange ad hominem but it's not any more effective with you repeating it than it was when he said it the first time; I write well and I'm comfortable with my writing style.

I'm not "saying very little" - what I am doing is constantly retreading the same ground and repeating things I've already said in the thread. Mostly because, as above, people are continually arguing against things I haven't actually said and I (naively) thought that might be because I wasn't expressing it clearly enough. I think I'm going to have to accept that it's a willful misrepresentation.

I'm not tying it to "people's response to violence committed against people who have looked to the police for help" - I've been quite clear that I'm talking about disproportionate response to actual criminal situations.

I don't "care enough to be enraged about it" - I've repeatedly stated that their actions are understandable and that my dislike of the violent response has nothing to do with Poor Old Racist Joe or having sympathy for him.

I haven't at any point disagreed that being racist and attacking people is likely to end up in getting hurt, nor that it isn't common sense to know that.

Apparently these things are unclear, despite me having said all of them clearly and repeatedly.



I can only try one more time to boil it down to as little as possible:

The guy was being a racist arsehole. Finding himself on the recieving end of a violent response was likely, understandable, even unavoidable if it's something he's doing often. They didn't respond in self defense, because they weren't realistically at physical risk - they responded in anger. That is understandable, especially in the current political climate. Responding with violence is still the wrong choice, and shouldn't be applauded, as violent responses shouldn't be encouraged.

It's not really a complicated stance but I keep getting responses that I feel sorry for the guy, or that I'm blaming the guys who punched him, or that I'm not sympathetic to the issues, or that - actually - no one has applauded it when the posts are still right there to be read.

Another meandering response.

Two things, your first post to me was quite rude, so I decided to match your rudeness. Thanks for knocking that on the head.

Socondly, and this where I repeat my self like you are in this thread. If you quote me make sure you're actually quoting me. You've posted a general summary but quoted my post. Dunno why you did that perhaps you can explain?