[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Entitled people that confuse wearing a piece of fabric on your face to being oppressed. It's just people throwing tantrums over nothing.

Would they rather another full on Lock down? Do they argue when they're told they can't fly off to their holidays if they don't put their seat belts on in the plane? ****ing stupidity

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Would they rather another full on Lock down? Do they argue when they're told they can't fly off to their holidays if they don't put their seat belts on in the plane? ****ing stupidity

They don't think that far ahead, you also get people who oppose masks thinking that Covid is a hoax. Delusion, entitlement and stupidity rolled into one. If another lockdown were to happen, they'd blame everyone else but themselves because it's never their fault.

We live in an age where wilful ignorance is seen as enlightenment and science is becoming demonised because people only care about things that fuel their delusions, not facts.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They don't think that far ahead, you also get people who oppose masks thinking that Covid is a hoax. Delusion, entitlement and stupidity rolled into one. If another lockdown were to happen, they'd blame everyone else but themselves because it's never their fault.

We live in an age where wilful ignorance is seen as enlightenment and science is becoming demonised because people only care about things that fuel their delusions, not facts.

I just don't get the "why" for a hoax. It's crippling economies, I can't think why governments would want that

I made a thread about a Netflix series today actually called The Social Dilemma, I think maybe that might begin to answer some of why people are getting caught up in conspiracies like this

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just don't get the "why" for a hoax. It's crippling economies, I can't think why governments would want that

I made a thread about a Netflix series today actually called The Social Dilemma, I think maybe that might begin to answer some of why people are getting caught up in conspiracies like this

People are simply rejecting reality when it doesn't suit them. A global pandemic that is killing hundreds of thousands is scary so they convince themselves it's all a hoax to strip them of their freedoms, climate change is scary so it's a leftist political plot. Anything bad that gets said about their preferred politicians is simply fake news etc.

It's honestly worrying how prevalent such trains of thoughts are becoming. Facts are fact, whether they are good or bad is irrelevant, living in a dream world won't fix what's wrong.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People are simply rejecting reality when it doesn't suit them. A global pandemic that is killing hundreds of thousands is scary so they convince themselves it's all a hoax to strip them of their freedoms, climate change is scary so it's a leftist political plot. Anything bad that gets said about their preferred politicians is simply fake news etc.

It's honestly worrying how prevalent such trains of thoughts are becoming. Facts are fact, whether they are good or bad is irrelevant, living in a dream world won't fix what's wrong.

The problem is what is or is not "fact" is being muddied and debated so much that sometimes it's hard to see which things are and are not facts

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The problem is what is or is not "fact" is being muddied and debated so much that sometimes it's hard to see which things are and are not facts

Yeah, it also doesn't help that it's becoming increasingly more commonplace to reject the advice of experts if they don't tell you what you want to hear.

People are placing their feelings on the same absolute pedestal as facts to the point they feel like they can reject them if they don't like it.

Common sense is taking a leave of absence and people's egos are inflating in the process. If a validated expert tells me something, I will listen whether or not I like what I'm hearing, to reject such things because it's inconvenient is arrogant.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just don't get the "why" for a hoax. It's crippling economies, I can't think why governments would want that

I made a thread about a Netflix series today actually called The Social Dilemma, I think maybe that might begin to answer some of why people are getting caught up in conspiracies like this

New World Order, control through fear, covert permanent altering of civil rights, etc. It's not THAT wild of a theory (aside from Covid obviously being real), mainly because the wealth of billionaires has expanded massively during Covid so yes there are very powerful people with a lot to gain, and part of a "true" New World Order would involve heavy economic restructuring anyway, and "writing off" a tonne of international debt or making it irrelevant, so the short term economic cost becomes moot.

It's conspiracy nonsense of course (... probably ...) but it's not inherently illogical.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

New World Order, control through fear, covert permanent altering of civil rights, etc. It's not THAT wild of a theory (aside from Covid obviously being real), mainly because the wealth of billionaires has expanded massively during Covid so yes there are very powerful people with a lot to gain, and part of a "true" New World Order would involve heavy economic restructuring anyway, and "writing off" a tonne of international debt or making it irrelevant, so the short term economic cost becomes moot.

It's conspiracy nonsense of course (... probably ...) but it's not inherently illogical.

I just couldn't imagine all world governments agreeing with and/or benefiting from it (unless a lot of them are being duped too which seems pretty far fetched)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just couldn't imagine all world governments agreeing with and/or benefiting from it (unless a lot of them are being duped too which seems pretty far fetched)

Well you also have to remember that most of these theories are US-born and people in the US have a habit of forgetting that most of the world exists.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well you also have to remember that most of these theories are US-born and people in the US have a habit of forgetting that most of the world exists.

True enough, also it seems even less likely for the US government to be involved considering how Trump has handled it and back tracked on it too, in fact he was almost acting like he thought it was a hoax himself at the beginning