[Denver]

Also a number of court cases were thrown out last night after they admitted they had no evidence at all

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Samm

it’s so scary how close the US were to Fascism

Where on Earth did you get that from? A fascist state wouldn't have a free press able to call out the leader, it certainly wouldn't allow the constant riots or even the peaceful protests which preceded them, and wouldn't have two chambers able to veto the president's actions.

The USA wasn't and isn't anywhere close to fascism.

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by reece(:

The desperation to paint Biden bad . He's won whilst acting respectfully and dignified. Deal with it, whilst your fave is throwing tantrums and claiming rigging as a last attempt to cause a stir because he can't accept defeat.

Literally this. Some people aren’t happy that Biden is president and are covering it up by saying they don’t support Trump either. It’s a desperate attempt to say the least

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Where on Earth did you get that from? A fascist state wouldn't have a free press able to call out the leader, it certainly wouldn't allow the constant riots or even the peaceful protests which preceded them, and wouldn't have two chambers able to veto the president's actions.

The USA wasn't and isn't anywhere close to fascism.

All of the fascist precursors were there, just like they are here. Fascism doesn't happen overnight, and nobody rides into power on a promise of it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Literally this. Some people aren’t happy that Biden is president and are covering it up by saying they don’t support Trump either. It’s a desperate attempt to say the least

So are you saying it's not possible to dislike either

[Denver]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So are you saying it's not possible to dislike either

You can dislike both but trying so hard to make Biden look worse then Trump is pathetic and childish

[Denver]

Trump is saying he won the election because he got 71m votes

[arista]

279 Biden
214 Trump

[Denver]

Biden is on 290

[arista]

Obama got 68Million Votes

Trump got 70Million Votes

Biden got 74Million Votes

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Denver

You can dislike both but trying so hard to make Biden look worse then Trump is pathetic and childish

This

[user104658]

Are there people I would rather see as president of the united states than Biden? Absolutely.

But Trump has been a disaster. A political and sociological disaster, for the entire world. An inevitable and perhaps necessary one? Maybe, there are lots of arguments for why that might be the case, I think (and hope) that MANY lessons have been learned in the past 4 years and hopefully going forward things will only improve. When Biden leaves office... wouldn't it be ****ing lovely to see a good-humoured election between two respectable, respectful, professional candidates?

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are there people I would rather see as president of the united states than Biden? Absolutely.

But Trump has been a disaster. A political and sociological disaster, for the entire world. An inevitable and perhaps necessary one? Maybe, there are lots of arguments for why that might be the case, I think (and hope) that MANY lessons have been learned in the past 4 years and hopefully going forward things will only improve. When Biden leaves office... wouldn't it be ****ing lovely to see a good-humoured election between two respectable, respectful, professional candidates?

I think there's a pretty good chance that the 2024 Republican candidate's surname is 'Trump'

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think there's a pretty good chance that the 2024 Republican candidate's surname is 'Trump'

[arista]

Biden/Harris
are due to speak approx 1AM
our time (all media)

[GiRTh]

Alot of things will have to go in Trumps favour for him to run again and I just dont see it happening.

Firstly, he needs the media. He's nothing when he's not in the news all the time. I just dont see which media outlet will support him when he's out of office. No credible news outlet for sure. If he starts his own then...but that raises another issue. I really cant see people just letting this man rise up again like he did unopposed in 2015. There are still a number of pending investigations into his business affairs and those will only intensify when he leaves office. He doesn't have enough money to cover his 400 odd million dollar debt and pay all the lawyer fess he's going to face. As I said at the beginning he's gonna have to be very lucky and people will have to let him get away with too much.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Alot of things will have to go in Trumps favour for him to run again and I just dont see it happening.

Firstly, he needs the media. He's nothing when he's not in the news all the time. I just dont see which media outlet will support him when he's out of office. No credible news outlet for sure. If he starts his own then...but that raises another issue. I really cant see people just letting this man rise up again like he did unopposed in 2015. There are still a number of pending investigations into his business affairs and those will only intensify when he leaves office. He doesn't have enough money to cover his 400 odd million dollar debt and pay all the lawyer fess he's going to face. As I said at the beginning he's gonna have to be very lucky and people will have to let him get away with too much.

He has remodelled the Republican party in his own image though and been a bigger electoral force than any other candidate in recent history. When he first got the Republican nomination - and even the Presidency - there was quite a lot of dissent within the GOP that has since evaporated

It might not even be him in 2024 but a run from Ivanka or Donald Trump jnr are both possible

[arista]

Ian Dale still going
he would like calls
from either side of the fence.........


https://www.lbc.co.uk/

[LaLaLand]

Leaked footage of Trump from White House Zoom meetings this past week surfaces:

Youtube video

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He has remodelled the Republican party in his own image though and been a bigger electoral force than any other candidate in recent history. When he first got the Republican nomination - and even the Presidency - there was quite a lot of dissent within the GOP that has since evaporated

It might not even be him in 2024 but a run from Ivanka or Donald Trump jnr are both possible

i don't think the GoP will shift from a voting base that large, so even if it wasn't a Trump, it will be someone with similar policies. The dems haven't yet come to terms with the fact that they disenfranchised all those voters and it's them that need to change if they want things to change