[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’m actually not we have seen time and time again what happens in America when people don’t agree with what’s gone on they take to the streets and America will burn

Trump has millions of followers

Just because he has millions of people who voted for him doesn't mean that there are millions of people willing to risk their lives/careers/imprisonment to go protest for him

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Just because he has millions of people who voted for him doesn't mean that there are millions of people willing to risk their lives/careers/imprisonment to go protest for him

Indeed; the majority will be habitual Red Voters who have and will always vote Republican, rather than Trump stans. There ARE millions of Trump stans but what percentage of those are willing to put themselves on the line at all? And then, of those, what percentage have the staying power to not run home when it gets real? Personal survival instinct is strong.

Don't get me wrong I think there will be very real clashes, I imagine the number is still in the tens-of-thousands, but the streets will not be lined by millions.

There's a reason the "same faces" crop up in the pictures of various clashes at various times... the same groups of activists have a heavy presence and create the illusion that there are "people everywhere" when in reality the same people are travelling around a lot.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed; the majority will be habitual Red Voters who have and will always vote Republican, rather than Trump stans. There ARE millions of Trump stans but what percentage of those are willing to put themselves on the line at all? And then, of those, what percentage have the staying power to not run home when it gets real? Personal survival instinct is strong.

Don't get me wrong I think there will be very real clashes, I imagine the number is still in the tens-of-thousands, but the streets will not be lined by millions.

There's a reason the "same faces" crop up in the pictures of various clashes at various times... the same groups of activists have a heavy presence and create the illusion that there are "people everywhere" when in reality the same people are travelling around a lot.

Yeah, clearly there was the white supremacist Nazi group for example

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Just because he has millions of people who voted for him doesn't mean that there are millions of people willing to risk their lives/careers/imprisonment to go protest for him

i also think that many thought they could get away with anything because they were doing the will of the president and that's why they were so brazen. Now, they understand that a lot of people are going to be locked up for a considerable period of time. Also, it's one thing to think the dems are corrupt but when every world leader around the globe condemns their action, it has to give them a reality check on what they have been supporting.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i also think that many thought they could get away with anything because they were doing the will of the president and that's why they were so brazen. Now, they understand that a lot of people are going to be locked up for a considerable period of time. Also, it's one thing to think the dems are corrupt but when every world leader around the globe condemns their action, it has to give them a reality check on what they have been supporting.

Yep and as silly as it sounds Trump being banned from Twitter will probably have scared them a bit too

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep and as silly as it sounds Trump being banned from Twitter will probably have scared them a bit too

the opposite really i'd say it would make them more steadfast in their views and more likely to believe that their is something bigger at play, big tech censoring is a very dangerous game

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Novo

the opposite really i'd say it would make them more steadfast in their views and more likely to believe that their is something bigger at play, big tech censoring is a very dangerous game

hhhmmmm I don't know, it would make the most extreme of them more riled up but not the more "normal" of his supporters. Also, it cuts off his main way of communicating with them, out of sight out of mind and all that

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

hhhmmmm I don't know, it would make the most extreme of them more riled up but not the more "normal" of his supporters. Also, it cuts off his main way of communicating with them, out of sight out of mind and all that

if trump does get his own platform out of this (and if he does you'd think it will become massive) is it really worth censoring/banning him for? its a bad move imo and one that people will remember for years especially if the process keeps being repeated on similar accounts

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Novo

if trump does get his own platform out of this (and if he does you'd think it will become massive) is it really worth censoring/banning him for? its a bad move imo and one that people will remember for years especially if the process keeps being repeated on similar accounts

I'm definitely not one for silencing people generally speaking even those I don't agree with but I think he did cross the line into incitement of violence especially as the POTUS in this instance, both by literally telling his supporters to march on Capitol Hill (where people actually died) and by claiming that a fair democratic election result was fraudulent. It's always been the case where that line is there and not classed as free speech

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Novo

the opposite really i'd say it would make them more steadfast in their views and more likely to believe that their is something bigger at play, big tech censoring is a very dangerous game

I agree that there will be unintended (and not good) consequences, I think the pandora's box is open now and all sorts of people are going to find themselves ... unhappy ... with something they're currently cheering. And it won't be partisan; I can see the potential for anger across the spectrum. People will be cheering one day because the "TERF they hate" got kicked off a platform, and then fuming the next because THEY got kicked off for supporting some other form of rights activism... and vice versa.

That said, I don't know what the answer was with Trump and Twitter, because he was continuing to (quite blatantly, no matter what people claim) use it as a rallying flag for direct action in his supporters.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

People will be cheering one day because the "TERF they hate" got kicked off a platform, and then fuming the next because THEY got kicked off for supporting some other form of rights activism... and vice versa.

Like Posie Parker. She's never said anything particularly objectionable or inciting , and she's banned from practically everywhere online...