[Ammi]

...I don’t see how any trans person ...(...male to female..)...would feel it in any way a ‘privilege’ to have been born male and to have lived part of their life as male...for many it would have meant extreme unhappiness and not feeling any ‘fit’...how could that in any way be thought to be a privileged life....(...obviously exclusive of any specific advantages in competitive sports, which is obviously a huge thing to be addressed and conversations to be had...)...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t see how any trans person ...(...male to female..)...would feel it in any way a ‘privilege’ to have been born male and to have lived part of their life as male...

Male socialisation.

It's most likely one of the biggest causes of what gets called the "pay gap", as men's socialisation gives them the extra confidence to chase that promotion or ask for that payrise, while societal expectations mean men are more likely to spend more time working.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t see how any trans person ...(...male to female..)...would feel it in any way a ‘privilege’ to have been born male and to have lived part of their life as male...for many it would have meant extreme unhappiness and not feeling any ‘fit’...how could that in any way be thought to be a privileged life....(...obviously exclusive of any specific advantages in competitive sports, which is obviously a huge thing to be addressed and conversations to be had...)...

See this is true of transsexual people. People who feel dysphoria at their physical reality and do whatever possible to alleviate said dysphoria. Issue is, this goes WAY beyond that today. Its the 'beyond' thats causing the current problems. Without going into essays, my issue has NEVER been genuine transsexual people. Its the 'other' who have basically latched onto the whole thing as..seemingly a way to crap all over women, that are causing the issues, as the second group are being lumped in with the first group as 'disadvantaged' when really, thats far from the truth. The first group are absolutely disadvantaged and deserve empathy and understanding tbh. The second group..are the ones causing the huge majority of issues now. Feminists tend to push back against the second group, not transsexual people. Infact, from what I have seen, transsexual people seem t be against the second group as much as many feminists are..

The wants (not needs) of the second group are made out to be things that would benefit the first group. When in reality, they wouldn't, and the 'war' is infact making things MUCH worse for the first group (aswell as for women), but the second group don't care..