[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He didn't sit back and let it happen, he took drastic action to remove his family from the situation by giving up everything he has ever known. Did you miss that part somehow?

It is fairly evident to me from their demeanor and the way they talk about things that they have had significant counselling since leaving The UK.

So they absolutely did take action. By leaving.

Not when she said she was suicidal though, he was too ashamed to do anything....and didn't you say he had wanted to get out of there for years?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

Not when she said she was suicidal though, he was too ashamed to do anything....and didn't you say he had wanted to get out of there for years?

I'm not really going to gloss over that part; he did admit that he didn't do all he could immediately because of feeling ashamed but that's all part of the issue and the culture, isn't it. It seems he knows he could have done more and is owning that - otherwise he wouldn't have said it. You claim the interview was 100% cultivated and preened to be nothing but positive for them so why would that be in there is he wasn't admitting that he wishes he had done more earlier? He's essentially being apologetic about it in the interview and brings it up as part of explaining that there was a later point when he realised how bad things had gotten, and had to get them out of the situation. Why take his admission thst he coils and should have done more and use it as a criticism? It's information that he's offering freely and already criticising in himself.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not really going to gloss over that part; he did admit that he didn't do all he could immediately because of feeling ashamed but that's all part of the issue and the culture, isn't it. It seems he knows he could have done more and is owning that - otherwise he wouldn't have said it. You claim the interview was 100% cultivated and preened to be nothing but positive for them so why would that be in there is he wasn't admitting that he wishes he had done more earlier? He's essentially being apologetic about it in the interview and brings it up as part of explaining that there was a later point when he realised how bad things had gotten, and had to get them out of the situation. Why take his admission thst he coils and should have done more and use it as a criticism? It's information that he's offering freely and already criticising in himself.

Doesnt that all seem a bit bizarre behaviour from someone who has made speeches in support of Mental Health and said how important it is to reach out and not be ashamed....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Doesnt that all seem a bit bizarre behaviour from someone who has made speeches in support of Mental Health and said how important it is to reach out and not be ashamed....

It just shows how hard to do it is when you are ACTUALLY in the situation to me. We all know how things should be done, doesn't mean you would definitely do it when you're in that situation. For example, I have taken loads of first aid courses over the years and when I was a nanny had to do a fairly intensive paediatric one. However when my son was 2 he choked on a piece of bread, I'm talking properly choking in a restaurant. I knew I had to get that piece of food dislodged, I even knew the best way to do it....but I froze. Only momentarily and a lady at another table stepped up. I had all the knowledge but in the moment I didn't do what I should have done. That's just being human and flawed.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not really going to gloss over that part; he did admit that he didn't do all he could immediately because of feeling ashamed but that's all part of the issue and the culture, isn't it. It seems he knows he could have done more and is owning that - otherwise he wouldn't have said it. You claim the interview was 100% cultivated and preened to be nothing but positive for them so why would that be in there is he wasn't admitting that he wishes he had done more earlier? He's essentially being apologetic about it in the interview and brings it up as part of explaining that there was a later point when he realised how bad things had gotten, and had to get them out of the situation. Why take his admission thst he coils and should have done more and use it as a criticism? It's information that he's offering freely and already criticising in himself.

Meghan was 100% cultivated and preened, Harry didn't quite follow the script.
He's emotional and spontaneous, Meghan is very much not.