[Cal.]

Spoiler:

Lindsay won.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Yes this. He has yet to condemn them. Since he's so vocal about everything else it shouldn't be a problem. Wouldn't be surprised if he has private conversations with some members.

Disgusting that they are allowed to march in all honesty

[Vicky.]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reason...e-talks-about/

Blacks riot, Muslims set bombs, gays spread AIDS, Mexican cartels behead children, atheists tear down Christmas trees. Meanwhile, those liberal Lena Dunhams in their $5,000-a-month apartments sip wine and say, "But those white Christians are the real problem!" Terror victims scream in the street next to their own severed limbs, and the response from the elites is to cry about how men should be allowed to use women's restrooms and how it's cruel to keep chickens in cages.

This is a ****ing fantastic article. I did not understand the Trump thing at all. yes I did think those voting for him were just racist/sexist/etc. But this...sets it all out in a way I can understand. And you know what...I totally get it, finally.

[empire]

the clinton foundation gets its millions from the saudis, and the saudi regime bought a number of american news companies like fox news, cnn, and many of them where fedding the democratic supporters with talk of hillary ahead in the polls, when in fact she was slipping down in parts of america, the clinton foundation spent 62 million where as trump spent only 16 million on his election front, the clintons thought big money would walk them into the white house, you have hollywood people, singers, celebs, who are in bed with the global elites, you have people like lena dunham, katy perry, beyonce, miley cyrus, who spout at the same time living in there rich bubbles,

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by empire

the clinton foundation gets its millions from the saudis, and the saudi regime bought a number of american news companies like fox news, cnn, and many of them where fedding the democratic supporters with talk of hillary ahead in the polls, when in fact she was slipping down in parts of america, the clinton foundation spent 62 million where as trump spent only 16 million on his election front, the clintons thought big money would walk them into the white house, you have hollywood people, singers, celebs, who are in bed with the global elites, you have people like lena dunham, katy perry, beyonce, miley cyrus, who spout at the same time living in there rich bubbles,

You always speak so much truth and your posts are always very factual Empire.

[Alf]

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Curt Atleast get his name right


Didn't say that


CLAIM: Kurt Cobain endorsed Donald Trump in 1993.

FALSE

http://www.snopes.com/kurt-cobain-pr...dency-in-1993/

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Curt Atleast get his name right


Didn't say that


CLAIM: Kurt Cobain endorsed Donald Trump in 1993.

FALSE

http://www.snopes.com/kurt-cobain-pr...dency-in-1993/

I know, I was just seeing if anyone would buy it.

I've just been reading people on twitter arguing over it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I know, I was just seeing if anyone would buy it.

I've just been reading people on twitter arguing over it.

Kurt would never endorse someone like Trump

[Jack_]

This will be the longest, but best thing you'll read today

Quality journalism is alive and well

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This will be the longest, but best thing you'll read today

Quality journalism is alive and well

There is so much TRUTH in this article and so much which mirrors a lot of my own thoughts. It is a truly great piece of writing.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This will be the longest, but best thing you'll read today

Quality journalism is alive and well

..(it wasn't as long as I thought it might be../..around 40 minutes-ish to fully absorb..)...it's an excellent read Jack and so much that I connect with in how many things just haven't been addressed so this is where we are in our disconnection with those around us.../which I think is greatly contributed to by the very reverse of this in journalism and the awful agitating/inciting media...

.. a few parts made me quite teary because they conjured up so much how there is no 'victory' or good feeling for anyone with what's been happening through the process and the results now and through so many years and generations..how it's all about loss and not being able to take/sustain the loss any more..they know Trump isn't the answer but it's all so broken and in so much despair for so many...

The result was dramatic; the fallout was tumultuous and the consequences will be dire and, for some, even deadly.



....all powerful words that explain so much but (I'm a picture person also..)...and this picture in the article speaks so much to me as well with what is being felt now and has been felt...we're abandoned and neglected and don't feel our purpose anymore so we may as well be broken by something/someone who doesn't represent the thing that has done this to us.../the establishment of our government...sadly many are not ,looking to a guy in a gold and glass house for a 'fix'../don't even like him or anything he stands for or anything he is/can'r associate with anything about him at all...he's just not what has made them feel abandoned is all.....

[Withano]

Trump pays $25mil to settle fake University lawsuits

[empire]

you have to understand that the clintons are very dangerous people, alot of people who investigated them or crossed them have died in strange circumstances, only two days ago a reporter was found dead, and that reporter was getting to deep into what the clinton foundation was doing, and the deaths of vincent foster and ron brown tell of what really happens in the political underworld,

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This will be the longest, but best thing you'll read today

Quality journalism is alive and well

These are the types of articles/readings I was waiting for post-election.. The Atlantic also writes some decent stuff.

So many books are going to be written about this election... we're living in interesting times for sure. Most of all I've been looking forward to the scholarly approach to this... when the dust settles, the focus on the soundbytes end, that's when the real analysis begins...

By the way I had mentioned mainstream's coverage of this... I can't remember what thread, if it was this one or not... pretty much almost word for word what I've seen... quite baffling imo...

We woke to a new normal. The object of our derision would soon have the nuclear codes. Gingerly, but deliberately, respect for the process, the office and its trappings, superseded the moral issue of what the victor had said and done en route to victory. Many of the very same people who, just the day before, said he was unfit for office, now told America to unite around him. Meanwhile, those who had not seen any of this coming confidently told us what we had seen and what would be coming next. Middletown had spoken. For reasons to do with class, gender, race, masculinity, disaffection, populism, elitism – or all of the above – it had made common cause with a garish New York City multimillionaire to send a message to the establishment. Reporters were dispatched not to test this thesis but illustrate it.

I don't care that their hypothesis is always correct. I just think so ridiculous to act as if nothing is wrong... then act like everything is wrong... then nothing is wrong... is giving me, the viewer, a feeling of backlash . It's a mess...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Maru

So many books are going to be written about this election... we're living in interesting times for sure. Most of all I've been looking forward to the scholarly approach to this... when the dust settles, the focus on the soundbytes end, that's when the real analysis begins...

Captain Hindsight, to the rescuuue!

[Kizzy]

We live in a 'post fact era'..... good luck finding anyone who isn't worshiping at the altar of social media.

[James]

Originally Posted by Maru

These are the types of articles/readings I was waiting for post-election.. The Atlantic also writes some decent stuff.

So many books are going to be written about this election... we're living in interesting times for sure. Most of all I've been looking forward to the scholarly approach to this... when the dust settles, the focus on the soundbytes end, that's when the real analysis begins...

By the way I had mentioned mainstream's coverage of this... I can't remember what thread, if it was this one or not... pretty much almost word for word what I've seen... quite baffling imo...



I don't care that their hypothesis is always correct. I just think so ridiculous to act as if nothing is wrong... then act like everything is wrong... then nothing is wrong... is giving me, the viewer, a feeling of backlash . It's a mess...

Professor who has correctly predicted every US presidential election since 1984. His methods dismiss polling.

Youtube video

Disclaimer: He could just be on a lucky streak, and we only notice because he has been right.

[James]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We live in a 'post fact era'..... good luck finding anyone who isn't worshiping at the altar of social media.

I think social media eg. Twitter is a pretty rubbish way to discuss politics.

For these reasons:

• The 140 character limit (on Twitter) means nothing ever has to be explained or reasoned.
• Confirmation bias - everyone follows people they agree with, and get followed by people that agree with them, so there is little discussion that challenges statements.
• There is a lot of personal insults and less (or not as much as there shoould be) about policies and ideas.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Captain Hindsight, to the rescuuue!

Sad isn't it?

Originally Posted by James

Professor who has correctly predicted every US presidential election since 1984. His methods dismiss polling.

Youtube video

Disclaimer: He could just be on a lucky streak, and we only notice because he has been right.

Oh I've seen this guy! I think it's been a while though, but I remember his "keys". I think even with a crystal ball in hand, we'd all be reluctant to have surely predicted this past election...

There's another highly predictive "algorithm" (mock elections) too apparently but it recently failed.

University With 100% Accuracy Record Predicts Bernie Sanders Will Be America’s Next President
http://firebrandleft.com/university-...ext-president/

Then there is always Kreskin the mentalist

The Amazing Kreskin predicted Trump as winner of the 2016 presidential election in 2015
http://www.fox5dc.com/good-day/216503627-story1


Also why does Fox News always look like it's being filmed straight out of the 80-90s?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by James

I think social media eg. Twitter is a pretty rubbish way to discuss politics.

For these reasons:

• The 140 character limit (on Twitter) means nothing ever has to be explained or reasoned.
• Confirmation bias - everyone follows people they agree with, and get followed by people that agree with them, so there is little discussion that challenges statements.
• There is a lot of personal insults and less (or not as much as there shoould be) about policies and ideas.

nevertheless it is happening/ has happened. The media is full of tales of 'fake stories' atm, misinformation doing the rounds on social media that has no doubt been an influence for some.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I can't link it because I'm on my phone but there's an interview of him during the campaign where he refuses to condemn them and refuses to state he doesn't want their vote. Maybe he back tracked after that because of advice he received though.

His son has denounced David Duke as a bad person and basically said he deserved to be shot... but short of that, he doesn't appear to care to touch it. I understand in this way... he's not trying to be a reactionary. It doesn't support his platform of being the outsider... by not bucking to the press, he maintains that image. (until he trolls them for votes and more media coverage). And it worked... he got elected. By ignoring the zoo full of elephants in the room. The media has been so easy to troll it's not even funny. All they had to do was stop covering him... what's that saying, don't feed the trolls? And yet they let him get through the entire primaries and win. All they had to do was maybe (depending on the state), register as a republican and vote him out. Simple. The Republican party didn't even want him, they would've gladly taken a lame duck. Instead, we now have an internet troll who not only is in the top office, but has access to nukes. We reap what we sew in my mind.

If he ends up turning the system upside down and doing some things that benefit us long-term... fine. He may not even make it past four years with his Twitter habits. Who knows. All the liberals have to do is let it all run it's course and they'll have a pretty nice platform to push whatever they push... however if they sit and bitch and moan and stall at every twist and turn. The people are going to get very frustrated and they'll only be giving the troll King more fuel. They have to listen this time. It can't just be, my way or the high way... or else we may end up with someone worse. Or worse. I'm cautiously hopeful... but at the same time, I'm resigned to watch the fireworks, because this is the road that was paved... so we might as well make the most of it.

[Kizzy]

Speaking of animals..... This Telegraph article ( I know right :/ ) is great

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2...n-future-time/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Donald takes on WOKE

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Donald takes on WOKE

Youtube video

Trump is very much woke himself, another name i can add to the longlist i call him


mr woke orange clown baby