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Old 15-11-2021, 07:18 AM #10
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It's in the name, 'Stonewall.'

Go look up the Stonewall riots, go look up the people who were instrumental in it, go look up their impact on civil rights as a whole. Most of them were trans people of colour, and the fight for gay rights is just as much about trans rights as it is about anything else, because it was trans people that threw the first brick and begun the march towards what we have today.

If you can’t see why 90% of your post isn’t an argument against Stonewall being a high-level advisory group in corporations and governments then I don’t know what to say. Political pressure groups absolutely have their place in social progress, policy advisory groups absolutely have their place in social progress. Not when both are the same organisation. When deciding policy what’s required is robust social research and a careful examination of best-practice, not brick throwing, riots and base ideology. This is honestly the crux of the entire issue. This is where - if you can look past the bigots who just want a bandwagon to jump on - 99% of the problem lies. They’re pushing policy change with no evidence base. That is a disaster.

And in the vast majority of cases you’ll find that trans people are not what anyone has an issue with, but rather gender theory being hammered as fact rather than open for debate, a drive to make rampant stereotyping immune from critique, self-id and the ways it benefits predators. The common error there often being people thinking “oh you’re calling trans people predators!” - no, people are pointing out that male predators will have no qualms with pretending to be trans. And the elephant in the room - that there IS a proportion of people who lump themselves in with genuine gender dysphoria but it’s actually autogynephilia and fetishism. Ignoring these issues helps no one, least of all trans people.
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