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Originally Posted by Alf

You was even joining in with them pushing the big Russia lie for 3 years on this here forum. And now it's a proven made up story, you have nothing else to say on the matter.

Where to even start unpacking that one. Trump (and associates) have several traceable links to Russian officials. Russian interference in US and other Western politics is 100% something that happens - I watched the Russian Twitter bots in action with my own eyes during the 2020 US election night - it was fascinating (and worrying).

There was an investigation into whether or not Trump was directly involved with Russian interference geared towards helping him win. They could not prove that there was any direct, knowing involvement from the Trump camp. That is all that happened.

1) This does not mean it was "proven to be made up" - it means that there wasn't enough evidence to continue the investigation.

2) This does not mean that Russia didn't interfere - it's widely accepted that they did (and do) try to influence all Western voting events - or that they didn't favour Trump. It only means that him knowing about it and being involved in that activity was not PROVEN (again, "not proven" is not the same as "it didn't happen").

3) I don't have "nothing else to say" on the matter at all, Russian "high tech meddling" in Western politics is very real and very interesting as a topic. Their grubby fingerprints are all over UK politics as well, and I assume most other European political events (I can't say I keep informed on those as much as I do the UK and US). However... of course everyone's "gone quiet" about it - we're not in any sort of election period right now in either country so it's not a current event. Sure a general thread on it could be interesting but there are other things going on in the world right now so it's understandable that it's not really a topic of concern? The idea that Trump is magically "coming back as President" before 2024 is purely fantasy and the idea that he's going to run then, let alone win, I find unlikely. Russians will be trying to influence either way. It's not about Trump. I know you find that concept hard to swallow.