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13-05-2018, 05:35 PM | #176 | ||
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13-05-2018, 05:37 PM | #177 | ||
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Not a good worker , a suck-up. He needs someone like me to tell it to him like it is.
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17-05-2018, 09:59 PM | #178 | |||
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17-05-2018, 10:06 PM | #179 | |||
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https://bc.ctvnews.ca/woman-detained...tons-1.3932604
Here's what happens when your staff decide who does and doesn't get use of washroom facilities
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17-05-2018, 11:06 PM | #180 | |||
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17-05-2018, 11:09 PM | #181 | |||
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Starbucks hit by racism again: Latino customer says drink came with racial slur on cup
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17-05-2018, 11:13 PM | #182 | |||
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17-05-2018, 11:14 PM | #183 | |||
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Starbucks Training Focuses On The Evolving Study Of Unconscious Bias
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17-05-2018, 11:21 PM | #184 | |||
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I hope somebody secretly records these training classes and posts them online.
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18-05-2018, 05:37 AM | #185 | |||
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"It's unclear what triggered the incident, but a spokesperson for Tim Hortons said it appears an employee had refused to let the woman into the restaurant's locked restroom.
"Our current understanding is that the (employee) used their discretion in this case and denied access … based on past behaviour," the spokesperson told CTV News in an email. The worker was worried that letting her in could impact "the immediate safety" of customers and other employees, the spokesperson said, though the concerns were not specified. It would appear from the above that the gross woman perpetrator was KNOWN to the staff member and had a previous history of violent behaviour at the restaurant, which - to me - JUSTIFIES the staff member's decision not to allow her access to the washroom. In addition, the vile and violent actions of the woman after being refused access is confirmation that the staff member was CORRECT in his/her decision. Incidents such as this should not be put forward as any type of evidence for a case that restaurants and eateries SHOULD give anyone and everyone MANDATORY access to their toilets because it actually DAMAGES that case and reinforces the opposing argument. In any democratic society, to allow violence or the threat of violent reprisal to change rational policy is woefully wrong because it is succumbing to the lawlessness of the bully. And that applies not only in the case of the bullies directly perpetrating violence and threat of violent reprisal but also in the case of all those who seize on these incidents to make political capital from them to suit their own anti-democratic anti-establishment agendas. In my opinion.
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18-05-2018, 06:54 AM | #186 | |||
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07-06-2018, 09:28 AM | #187 | |||
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Saw this looking up another article. Very interesting... he's supposedly considering a 2020 run too for president... (but who isn't...)
In a way it's not all that surprising... Starbucks is a capitalist company and he and others succeeded in making it into it is by their own merit. Source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/31492...-emily-zanotti Quote:
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07-06-2018, 09:31 AM | #188 | ||
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Many companies say you cannot use their loos unless you buy something, this is not new so not sure why t there is hell on about starbucks doing it, UNLESS they usually let everyone use the loo and refused only because this person as homeless.
I hate this rule actually. Everywhere I have worked has had the rule, but I have ignored it everywhere too. If someone comes in and asks if they can use the loo, I let them. I would feel too awful if I said no and they peed themselves and am willing to take the crap off my boss for that tbh
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07-06-2018, 09:31 AM | #189 | ||
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But I admit I have not read the thread except the OP so this question has probably been asked and answered tbh
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07-06-2018, 09:44 AM | #190 | |||
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I have a bladder disorder, so I never liked this kind of rule... but I get it. Anyway, the Starbucks near me doesn't have a lock and I don't know any that do?... this location probably had specific issues with loitering/bathroom access being abused. |
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07-06-2018, 09:45 AM | #191 | ||
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TBH it would have been SO much simpler if they'd just gone the other direction and made it customers only . i.e. "We are very sorry that this happened and are looking into it with the staff member in question. Going forward, we have decided that use of the facilities will be for customers only, to avoid confusion." Instead they went with "Anyone and everyone can use them whenever!" which is just a bizarre and unsustainable policy. That said... I'm sure the original Starbusk "controversy" came about just because of people sitting in without ordering anything rather than a toilets use issue, and you can't really enforce a "no sitting" policy... because quite often people will be waiting for someone (who might be running late or whatever) and not want to get anything before they arrive. You really can't start kicking people out for sitting there minding their own business. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 07-06-2018 at 09:49 AM. |
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07-06-2018, 09:55 AM | #192 | ||
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The one with the two blokes...I think is a bit dodgy too if starbucks usually let people sit in there without buying anything (which again is a bit odd)
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07-06-2018, 09:57 AM | #193 | |||
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Again though, if they usually let people do this, then its a bad decision to call the police on someone for doing whats allowed.
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07-06-2018, 09:59 AM | #194 | |||
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Oh I forgot there were two threads ... I just put Starbucks in my find function and went back a few pages until I found the thread so I could update with an article.
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07-06-2018, 10:04 AM | #195 | |||
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In most places I've been to, short of gas stations, I've never been refused bathroom access if I ask nicely... but I'm a small unassuming woman, so they probably don't think drug dealer or messy homeless person... but discretion opens up people to discrimination suits now... even though profiling is part of business practices in many cases. Sales, for example... will be interesting how it all changes in the next 10-15 years.
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07-06-2018, 10:08 AM | #196 | |||
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Wait... so because it says US in the OP, does it mean outside of the US, the bathroom policy is unchanged?
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19-06-2022, 08:59 PM | #197 | |||
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This thread.
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20-06-2022, 05:54 AM | #198 | |||
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Pre- Covid 2018 And a Great USA poster Maru giving updates Now in LA June 2022 more Tramps are living on the streets with no bog to use. Last edited by arista; 20-06-2022 at 05:57 AM. |
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