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Originally Posted by Merry Botmas

Fair enough.

But i think you are both vastly overrating England and somewhat underrating Argentina.

France might beat Argentina and be the World Champion (best National team in the World). But even then i think Argentina have done enough to prove that they are at least top 2. They did after all destroy Croatia, last World Cup's Runner ups.

England, not so much. (In this tournament at least). Top 8 at most. I would put Brazil, Netherlands and maybe even Portugal above them (without Ronaldo).

Portugal lost to Morocco who ended up being less competitive against France than England were.

And tbh I don't think that England are amazing by any means, I just feel that away from France, other teams seem significantly behind the pack to me.

In particular with Argentina they scraped a 2-1 win against Australia whilst France annihilated Australia, and I personally feel that England, Poland & Morocco would've all comfortably beaten Australia as well.