[LeatherTrumpet]

Rapist who first appeared in court as a man named Adam with a
face tattoo before"changing gender" |(putting on a wig and a pink coat) ahead of trial for attacking two women - as
she is sent to a women's prison

• Isla Bryson was known as Adam Graham when she carried out the sex attacks
• The first victim was raped in 2016 - a second woman was raped in 2019
• Bryson made the decision about 'transitioning' from a man to a woman in 2020
• First appeared in court as Adam Graham but stood trial as woman Isla Bryson

A transgender woman has today been convicted of raping two vulnerable
mothers while living as a man and has been remanded in an all-female jail for up to a month before being sentenced.

Isla Bryson was a shaven-headed Adam Graham who had a Mike Tyson-style
face tattoo when "she" carried out the violent sex attacks in 2016 and 2019
after abusing the victims she originally met online.

The 31 year-old - who claimed to have had gender issues since the age of
four but began transitioning from a man to a woman in 2020 - had denied
the accusations. "She" told jurors any sex was consensual although insisted
she did not like sleeping with women and they made the 'first move'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...women-man.html

[UserSince2005]

His VPL is so fem.

[Niamh.]

He*

[Swan]

So a person born, and who lived as a man for most of their life, raped women, and is now a "women" themselves, has been sent to a female prison, where it will make it pathetically easy for them to rape women again?

Ok then..

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Swan

So a person born, and who lived as a man for most of their life, raped women, and is now a "women" themselves, has been sent to a female prison, where it will make it pathetically easy for them to rape women again?

Ok then..

Welcome to 2023.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Swan

So a person born, and who lived as a man for most of their life, raped women, and is now a "women" themselves, has been sent to a female prison, where it will make it pathetically easy for them to rape women again?

Ok then..

Oh but it's never going to happen!! Predatory men would never take advantage of big gaping loopholes like that!!

[GoldHeart]

How convenient that HE'S a woman now . I see a MALE predator,I will not be calling this person female.

I remember when another one of these stories hit the headlines, and Dr Shola insisted on still calling the predator "she" . Yeah screw that , if you've committed a crime that serious ...why should anyone respect your pronouns. Typical woke far leftie ideology !.

[bitontheslide]

that's Scotland for you

[Cherie]

But but this would never happen, we were imagining that this scenario could play out due to our bigoted natures

[LeatherTrumpet]

This adult human female is worried

Spoiler:

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[parmnion]

Build new jails and send them all there where they can all stick each others vaginas up each others bums till their hearts are content.

[Swan]

I mean look at his small bulge in the second picture

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Swan

I mean look at his small bulge in the second picture

Gross
Isn't even bothering to hide it , reminds me of when Dylan Mulvany use to say "normalise the bulge" .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Swan

I mean look at his small bulge in the second picture

absolutely despicable to put a rapist in with vulnerable women but here we are, and no amount of intervention from women will change their stance, Nicola Sturgeon should be rightly ashamed

[LeatherTrumpet]

It just keeps reminding me of The Emperor's New Clothes fable

Its like this whole debacle is what you get when too many people collectively virtue signal

thinking they are all progressive and "inclusive"

crims always find weaknesses, loopholes and vulnerabilities

[The Slim Reaper]

This is a tragic case for the victims of his attacks. I thought I'd better mention the victims as this thread is only to air out agendas against the trans community (which I know will come as a shock on here) trying to live their lives,

The attacks happened when he was living as a man, so he's not even a transgender rapist, he was yet another male rapist, but I guess that's not important.

I don't think he's genuinely trans; he's opportunistic like most predators. I'd put him into a male prison, where genuine trans people have been housed and violently abused forever, another fact which I guess is unimportant.

The only promising thing to come out of this is the acknowledgment that people in prison can still be vulnerable, so maybe we need to look at rehabilitation programmes rather than an outdated prison system,

[arista]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This is a tragic case for the victims of his attacks. I thought I'd better mention the victims as this thread is only to air out agendas against the trans community (which I know will come as a shock on here) trying to live their lives,

The attacks happened when he was living as a man, so he's not even a transgender rapist, he was yet another male rapist, but I guess that's not important.

I don't think he's genuinely trans; he's opportunistic like most predators. I'd put him into a male prison, where genuine trans people have been housed and violently abused forever, another fact which I guess is unimportant.

The only promising thing to come out of this is the acknowledgment that people in prison can still be vulnerable, so maybe we need to look at rehabilitation programmes rather than an outdated prison system,

so now he is transgender he isnt a now a transgender rapist? If he was a train driver when he was raped 2 women but is now a Policeman you would be admonishing the newspaper that printed Cop rapist arrested?

you want him to arrive in the womans prison as just a transgender lady who has never raped anyone coz that was the other bloke who we dont talk about? Thats nice and safe for the inmates

[Mystic Mock]

It's clear as day that this person isn't really Transgender, and has used a loophole in the system to go to a women's Prison.

However I hope that this person goes to Prison for a very long time, regardless of whatever they identify as.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so now he is transgender he isnt a now a transgender rapist? If he was a train driver when he was raped 2 women but is now a Policeman you would be admonishing the newspaper that printed Cop rapist arrested?

you want him to arrive in the womans prison as just a transgender lady who has never raped anyone coz that was the other bloke who we dont talk about? Thats nice and safe for the inmates

Transgender rapist has a completely different connotation to the truth. Identity of a person is a little different to their profession. I already said he should be sent to a male prison, so the bit in bold doesn't make any sense whatsoever as a reply to anything I wrote.

[Cherie]

It is in law that transgender woman have to be housed in female prisons since this lady lost her case

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57692993

It is lawful for transgender women to be housed in female jails in England and Wales, the High Court has ruled.

A female prisoner, known as FDJ, had challenged the Ministry of Justice over aspects of the policy.

She claimed she had been sexually assaulted by a trans prisoner but the MoJ did not say whether it accepted this alleged incident had taken place.

The judge ruled barring all trans women from female prisons would ignore their right to live as their chosen gender.

Women's prisons can house inmates who were born male but identify as female, regardless of whether they have gone through any physical transformation or have obtained a gender recognition certificate.

The MoJ argued the policy pursued a legitimate aim, including "facilitating the rights of transgender people to live in and as their acquired gender (and) protecting transgender people's mental and physical health".

The claimant in the case, FDJ, had said she was sexually assaulted in prison in 2017 by a trans woman with a gender recognition certificate (GRC), who had convictions for serious sexual offences.

The claimant's lawyers argued that placing transgender women in the female prisons exposed others to higher risk, citing a claim that transgender inmates were five times more likely than non-transgender prisoners to commit a sexual assault on a non-transgender prisoner.

In a judgement handed down via email, Lord Justice Holroyde accepted the statistical evidence showed the proportion of trans prisoners convicted of sexual offences was "substantially higher" than for non-transgender men and women prisoners

But he said the lawyers' claims about the risk of sexual assault were a "misuse of the statistics, which... are so low in number, and so lacking in detail, that they are an unsafe basis for general conclusions".

Between 2016 and 2019, 97 sexual assaults were recorded in women's prisons, the judgement said. Of these, it appears that seven were committed by transgender prisoners without a GRC. It is not known whether any were committed by transgender women with a GRC.

As of March 2019, there were 34 transgender women without GRCs allocated to a woman's prison. The number of transgender prisoners with a certificate is thought to be in single-figures across the prison population as a whole.

The judge said he "fully understood" the concerns of FDJ, and that women prisoners "may suffer fear and acute anxiety" if housed with a transgender woman who has male genitalia.

But he added that the rights of transgender women prisoners must also be considered.

"The unconditional introduction of a transgender woman into the general population of a women's prison carries a statistically greater risk of sexual assault upon non-transgender prisoners than would be the case if a non-transgender woman were introduced.

"However, the policies require a careful, case by case assessment of the risks and of the ways in which the risks should be managed," he said.

"Properly applied, that assessment has the result that non-transgender prisoners only have contact with transgender prisoners when it is safe for them to do so."

The claimant, FDJ, said she was "disappointed" with the judgement.

"By bringing this challenge, I did not seek to prevent trans women in prison from living in dignity, or to exclude all trans women from women's prisons. However, I feel that trans women who have a history of violence and sexual offending against women should not be in a situation where they can put our safety at risk."

A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said: "We are pleased the court agrees that the way we manage transgender offenders strikes the right balance between protecting their legal rights and ensuring the safety of all prisoners."

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Analysis box by Mark Easton, home editor
This is one of the first cases to enter the disputed terrain where, in the terms used by the court, the rights of women and the rights of transgender women compete.

The judge recognised that many women prisoners may suffer fear and acute anxiety if sharing prison accommodation with a transgender inmate.

But transgender women in male prisons may also suffer fear and acute anxiety. Prisons will, by their nature, include violent and dangerous individuals who present a risk to other inmates.

The question was whether the Ministry of Justice policy of placing transgender women among the general female prison population could be applied in a way that was not unlawfully discriminatory.

In the end, the judge accepted there was "a margin of discretion" in balancing the competing rights and managing the risks.

However, while the policy itself is ruled to be lawful, the judgement does make it clear that individual decisions are still open to challenge.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Its obvious he was terrified of going to a male jail where he would have been battered for being a rapist so took this stunt to get an easy ride at a woman's prison

and bonus is he can prey on the women there

[bitontheslide]

it would be like sending Gary Glitter to a juvenile prison

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it would be like sending Gary Glitter to a juvenile prison

who can forget when the SNP did this...

Youtube video

[The Slim Reaper]

Morris is a genius. That is the one thing they didn't want to happen