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Old 24-01-2023, 07:27 PM #1
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I'll say wokey far left all I want, if someone commits a serious crime !! the last thing on my mind is "oh I better get their pronouns correct" . Which is exactly what the far left seems to put first ,rather than the fact the person is a dangerous predator.

Like shouldn't that be the focus ...you know = keep this person LOCKED up and AWAY from women , DON'T put them in a women's prison ...so they have easy access to more victims.

We know loopholes are being exploited ,this is the very point we're making.
Knock yourself out with wokey far left chat all you like, it amuses me that you link communism (the real far left), with trans people, As I said - it's a bigoted mess. I think my post is fairly reasonable, but you go girl. From Corbyn to John Major because you hate trans people
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Knock yourself out with wokey far left chat all you like, it amuses me that you link communism (the real far left), with trans people, As I said - it's a bigoted mess. I think my post is fairly reasonable, but you go girl. From Corbyn to John Major because you hate trans people
But at the end of the day Slim, where is the common sense in putting a man, or previously a man, in a prison with women? Considering his crimes, putting him in a cell with a women is ridiculous.

Actually, it will HURT Trans people, if, he were to commit more of the same crimes in prison, where raping women would actually be a lot easier for him. It will give them a bad name.

It's all about common sense, and is this case, that's out the window!
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But at the end of the day Slim, where is the common sense in putting a man, or previously a man, in a prison with women? Considering his crimes, putting him in a cell with a women is ridiculous.

Actually, it will HURT Trans people, if, he were to commit more of the same crimes in prison, where raping women would actually be a lot easier for him. It will give them a bad name.

It's all about common sense, and is this case, that's out the window!
I said in my first post in this thread, that he absolutely should be sent to a male prison, and I also agree that it will hurt trans people, not because they are in any way to blame, but because as this thread shows, it's any excuse to attack them.

I just believe in and support the rights of everyone (apart from those that commit serious crimes). just in the last few years our rights have been massively taken away by this government (with brexit included), but instead of all fighting to lift every single one of us, up, it's the age old issue of having one group being held up as the problem, and if we can just step on this group, things will be better. It's nothing more than a distraction whilst our living conditions are being hammered by the truly powerful, who are all against trans rights, by the way. .
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Knock yourself out with wokey far left chat all you like, it amuses me that you link communism (the real far left), with trans people, As I said - it's a bigoted mess. I think my post is fairly reasonable, but you go girl. From Corbyn to John Major because you hate trans people
When the hell did I ever say I supported John Major??? ,you already know where I stand politically. I will NEVER support the conservatives. But overall my views are more moderate liberal centre.

You can assume I hate trans people all you want, you're just proving my point ...when someone has a different opinion to you ,then you accuse them of hating an entire community, abuse gets thrown at women .....words like "terf" just for acknowledging biology and wanting to protect other women . This is why we're just going backwards ...and will continue to go backwards. This is NOT progressive AT ALL .
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When the hell did I ever say I supported John Major??? ,you already know where I stand politically. I will NEVER support the conservatives. But overall my views are more moderate liberal centre.

You can assume I hate trans people all you want, you're just proving my point ...when someone has a different opinion to you ,then you accuse them of hating an entire community, abuse gets thrown at women .....words like "terf" just for acknowledging biology and wanting to protect other women . This is why we're just going backwards ...and will continue to go backwards. This is NOT progressive AT ALL .
You said in the other thread that you liked the moderate right (aka John Major). Everything you don't like is far left from the little I read your posts, but far left is communism. Trans people weren't a consideration during the Bolshevik revolution. Corbyn is a democratic socialist who supports trans rights, so no, neither of us have any idea where you stand politically. You use woke far left as a pejorative, and then you link trans rights to the far left, which sort of puts yourself in the space of using slurs to describe anyone who supports trans people. It shows that you're regurgitating, not actually understanding what you're saying.

Every attempt to step on a minority group always starts and ends with the pretense of protecting the larger group, when both groups can be lifted up and protected at the same time if we work together.
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You said in the other thread that you liked the moderate right (aka John Major). Everything you don't like is far left from the little I read your posts, but far left is communism. Trans people weren't a consideration during the Bolshevik revolution. Corbyn is a democratic socialist who supports trans rights, so no, neither of us have any idea where you stand politically. You use woke far left as a pejorative, and then you link trans rights to the far left, which sort of puts yourself in the space of using slurs to describe anyone who supports trans people. It shows that you're regurgitating, not actually understanding what you're saying.

Every attempt to step on a minority group always starts and ends with the pretense of protecting the larger group, when both groups can be lifted up and protected at the same time if we work together.
Wow help us all !!! no what I said was I found myself agreeing more with the moderate right wing , but I do NOT agree with everything the right wing says. You know I DON'T support this government NEVER have & NEVER will.


I was a Corbyn supporter at the time,and I wanted him to be the PM of this country,we will never know now ...how he would have coped with all the challenges & issues out there. But I think he would have tried his best ,and maybe made some mistakes as he's human.

You basically twist everything for your own agenda, what slurs was used? ....if you're offended by 'woke' & 'far left' ...then that's amusing when you've been more condescending and rude towards me anyway . And when did I condone 'stepping on minority communities ' ?? .

It's not difficult to understand, I use to be very left wing , and I've never and will never be right wing . I'm in the centre .
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Wow help us all !!! no what I said was I found myself agreeing more with the moderate right wing , but I do NOT agree with everything the right wing says. You know I DON'T support this government NEVER have & NEVER will.


I was a Corbyn supporter at the time,and I wanted him to be the PM of this country,we will never know now ...how he would have coped with all the challenges & issues out there. But I think he would have tried his best ,and maybe made some mistakes as he's human.

You basically twist everything for your own agenda, what slurs was used? ....if you're offended by 'woke' & 'far left' ...then that's amusing when you've been more condescending and rude towards me anyway . And when did I condone 'stepping on minority communities ' ?? .

It's not difficult to understand, I use to be very left wing , and I've never and will never be right wing . I'm in the centre .
I guess saying "you go girl with the wokey far left chat" has somehow been twisted into I'm offended. As I pointed out, it just reveals you're regurgitating, not understanding the terms you're using. It's no more than a meme at this point.

Where did I say you condone stepping on minority communities?

Everything I've said in this thread has been explained.
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The title should read rapist male posing as transgender woman gets put in women’s prison due to gaping loophole in self ID that affects women’s only places which woman have being pointing out for years but whose concerns have been ignored by everyone including by the judge in the case because of worriy about how it might look and how it might impact career progression ..woman are just collateral damage these days and that is from both sides left and right
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The title should read rapist male posing as transgender woman gets put in women’s prison due to gaping loophole in self ID that affects women’s only places which woman having being pointing out for years but whose concerns have been ignored by everyone including by the judge in the case because of worriy about how it might look and how it might impact career progression ..woman are just collateral damage these days and that is from both sides left and right
Not often that I don't have anything much to add Cherie but this is pretty comprehensive.

What I find staggering is that people who are generally reasonable and rational will still;

- refuse to acknowledge that too much has been done too quickly, overlooking any safeguarding concerns.

- refuse to acknowledge that the tonne of bricks that's been brought down on women for pointing out concerns is absolutely DRENCHED in misogyny

- refuse to tap the brakes no matter how many indications there are that the ideology needs to slow down

... And it's all for fear of seeming like a "bad ally" or out of worry that budging an inch risks "aligning with bigots".
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The title should read rapist male posing as transgender woman gets put in women’s prison due to gaping loophole in self ID that affects women’s only places which woman have being pointing out for years but whose concerns have been ignored by everyone including by the judge in the case because of worriy about how it might look and how it might impact career progression ..woman are just collateral damage these days and that is from both sides left and right
Exactly.

And I don't like the "but criminals will find away to attack women anyway" attitude. Why should it be made easier for them? Why do women have to give up our safe guards? There needs to be another way to protect vulnerable transwomen without using women as a human shield.
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I guess saying "you go girl with the wokey far left chat" has somehow been twisted into I'm offended. As I pointed out, it just reveals you're regurgitating, not understanding the terms you're using. It's no more than a meme at this point.

Where did I say you condone stepping on minority communities?

Everything I've said in this thread has been explained.
Oh and just so you know I never voted for BREXIT either ....I voted to REMAIN .
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Knock yourself out with wokey far left chat all you like, it amuses me that you link communism (the real far left), with trans people, As I said - it's a bigoted mess. I think my post is fairly reasonable, but you go girl. From Corbyn to John Major because you hate trans people
"because you hate trans people"

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Knock yourself out with wokey far left chat all you like, it amuses me that you link communism (the real far left), with trans people, As I said - it's a bigoted mess. I think my post is fairly reasonable, but you go girl. From Corbyn to John Major because you hate trans people


Who do you think your bloody talking to slim

Thats so patronising and unnecessary.
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Who do you think your bloody talking to slim

Thats so patronising and unnecessary.

Is this your contribution to the thread, thus far?


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Yeah, might need to keep this one moving.

I see having a different opinion to the hivemind on here has brought out expected results.

I've been more than reasonable in my posts, but report anything you don't like, I posted it, so you don't need to tell me about it.
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Is this your contribution to the thread, thus far?




Yeah, might need to keep this one moving.

I see having a different opinion to the hivemind on here has brought out expected results.

I've been more than reasonable in my posts, but report anything you don't like, I posted it, so you don't need to tell me about it.


You've been a tad condescending saying to a lady "but you go girl" Thats a saying girls, especially young girls.Keep for talking to each other.You used it whilst attempting to out down goldhearts opinion, which can only mean you were being condescending or patronising towards a woman whilst attempting to stick up for the rights of others.

Its disgusting.
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You've been a tad condescending saying to a lady "but you go girl" Thats a saying girls, especially young girls.Keep for talking to each other.You used it whilst attempting to out down goldhearts opinion, which can only mean you were being condescending or patronising towards a woman whilst attempting to stick up for the rights of others.

Its disgusting.
Agreed there was no need for those nasty comments.
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Which comment do you think was nasty?
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You've been a tad condescending saying to a lady "but you go girl" Thats a saying girls, especially young girls.Keep for talking to each other.You used it whilst attempting to out down goldhearts opinion, which can only mean you were being condescending or patronising towards a woman whilst attempting to stick up for the rights of others.

Its disgusting.
I see we've arrived at "you told a joke about a woman dying of cancer" part 2

report me for cultural or sexual appropriation if you find it so disgusting, but tell someone else about it, rather than joining the southern belles who fan themselves down every time I post.

Now that could be seen as misogynistic, so be sure to add that into the report.
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I see we've arrived at "you told a joke about a woman dying of cancer" part 2

report me for cultural or sexual appropriation if you find it so disgusting, but tell someone else about it, rather than joining the southern belles who fan themselves down every time I post.

Now that could be seen as misogynistic, so be sure to add that into the report.
2 many buttons to press to report people for me.
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No probs, ask someone else to do it for you. Maybe jaxers or LT will?
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I see we've arrived at "you told a joke about a woman dying of cancer" part 2

report me for cultural or sexual appropriation if you find it so disgusting, but tell someone else about it, rather than joining the southern belles who fan themselves down every time I post.

Now that could be seen as misogynistic, so be sure to add that into the report.


It was condescending slim.

Unintentionally I know. But still condescending. That's all I have to say. Enjoy the rest of your board meeting chairman.
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