[Tom4784]

The only people who can say if the diversity is forced or not is the people whom the diversity is aimed at. Anything else just comes across as entitled people crying because other people aside from themselves exist.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

The only people who can say if the diversity is forced or not is the people whom the diversity is aimed at. Anything else just comes across as entitled people crying because other people aside from themselves exist.

I mean it's more charitable to say that they're highlighting diversity ham-fistedly but with well meaning... the only other alternative is that they're just horribly written characters.

To be clear; my issue is NOT the diversity, and characters being from any demographic - the shows should be diverse and that should just be normal - my issue is when it's like "Hey everyone this is my sister. SHE'S BLACK! We'll make reference to that a whooole lot because it's important that you know that Netflix does lots of diversity!". She could just be black.

It takes away from the character, it takes away from the story and it does start to feel like tokenism and that it's there very obviously for the image of the content creator, not out of any genuine desire to promote diverse casts.

A prime example I always use is Endgame... because y'all know I'm Tibb's biggest feminist. Female characters front and centre? Love it. Empowerment? Absolutely. MORE female characters and in more prominent roles - yes.

The "all the female heroes suddenly assembling on the battlefield" in Endgame ... no! It's daft, it's immersion-breaking, it doesn't make ANY logical sense whatsoever, and it was blatantly thrown in there purely for PR.

That sort of diversity isn't real diversity - it's a neon sign that says "Hey look we're diverse" and it's usually to distract from a complete LACK of real diversity -- case in point, NONE of those female heroes in Endgame were being paid a fraction of what Paul Rudd was paid as Ant-man... let alone your RDJ/Evans/Hemsworth trio. But they sure did get their "empowering scene".

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

The only people who can say if the diversity is forced or not is the people whom the diversity is aimed at. Anything else just comes across as entitled people crying because other people aside from themselves exist.

I think being fair there are cases where I've seen Shows do forced diversity, but it doesn't necessarily mean the Show has to be bad either.

And again being fair I have seen white characters being shoehorned into programmes in recent years where the writers haven't had a clue on what to do with them because they're only there to tick the white character box.