[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Just making the point that many people on the right pretend to care about women and the struggles purely to benefit themselves, while still working to undermine feminism, that’s all

And again, I’ve also got some people on this thread on ignore and just read what I can see and reacted accordingly, feel free to add me to your ignore lists if you don’t like the way I post

If you read what I put in the OP, I say this isn't an attack on woman or even feminism. It's just a video highlighting these particularly women and those like them.

But apparently I was wrong to highlight and share them. Because I ran into their defences. Apparently women that treat men the way they do is fine. Well it's fine if we're not of fan of the presenter.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

If you read what I put in the OP, I say this isn't an attack on woman or even feminism. It's just a video highlighting these particularly women and those like them.

But apparently I was wrong to highlight and share them. Because I ran into their defences. Apparently women that treat men the way they do is fine. Well it's fine if we're not of fan of the presenter.

It's a video from a misogynistic content creator, about a podcast that is fake and uses hired actresses reading from a script that they write specifically with the intention of showing "how terrible women are". It's an attack on women with some misogyny sauce spread on top.

The most worrying part is that when you claim that you can't see this - I actually believe you.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's a video from a misogynistic content creator, about a podcast that is fake and uses with hired actresses reading from a script that they write specifically with the intention of showing "how terrible women are". It's an attack on women with some misogyny sauce spread on top.

The most worrying part is that when you claim that you can't see this - I actually believe you.

The most worrying part is you champion men being seen as only toxic, and being behind men and women growing up to hate men. So much that the women are growing into these types in the video, and men who would just rather be women because why would they want to be men when you've told them that men are toxic.

It's all done purpously too, it's all part of population control. Let's get those birth rates down, abortion can't fight this problem alone.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

The most worrying part is you champion men being seen as only toxic, and being behind men and women growing up to hate men. So much that the women are growing into these types in the video, and men who would just rather be women because why would they want to be men when you've told them that men are toxic.

It's all done purpously too, it's all part of population control. Let's get those birth rates down, abortion can't fight this problem alone.

In younger people there are far more female-to-male trans people than there are male-to-female, so this argument falls completely on its face immediately.

And your grasp of the term "toxic masculinity" is as poor as your grasp of the word incel.

Toxic masculinity doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic", it means "there's a TYPE of masulinity that's toxic to both men and women".

We've discussed this loads of times on here though and you're still sticking with the idea that it means "all masculinity is toxic", so you either just don't want to hear it, or it gets washed right back out by all of the sad "men's rights activism" youtube videos.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

In younger people there are far more female-to-male trans people than there are male-to-female, so this argument falls completely on its face immediately.

And your grasp of the term "toxic masculinity" is as poor as your grasp of the word incel.

Toxic masculinity doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic", it means "there's a TYPE of masulinity that's toxic to both men and women".

We've discussed this loads of times on here though and you're still sticking with the idea that it means "all masculinity is toxic", so you either just don't want to hear it, or it gets washed right back out by all of the sad "men's rights activism" youtube videos.

I hear it, but I think you don't have a clue.

You're stuck in your misandrist incel talking points.

You need to keep of Reddit.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

I hear it, but I think you don't have a clue.

You're stuck in your misandrist incel talking points.

You need to keep of Reddit.

Time for a lie down I think Alf - it's not a discussion once you start this.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Time for a lie down I think Alf - it's not a discussion once you start this.

Are you saying that your usual replies are not discussion?

All I'm doing is holding a mirror up to you.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

In younger people there are far more female-to-male trans people than there are male-to-female, so this argument falls completely on its face immediately.

And your grasp of the term "toxic masculinity" is as poor as your grasp of the word incel.

Toxic masculinity doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic", it means "there's a TYPE of masulinity that's toxic to both men and women".

We've discussed this loads of times on here though and you're still sticking with the idea that it means "all masculinity is toxic", so you either just don't want to hear it, or it gets washed right back out by all of the sad "men's rights activism" youtube videos.

Do you see the Women's rights activism as "sad?" I don't see it as that, maybe I sometimes see them as wrong in my opinion, but not "sad" Just the same way I don't see the men's rights activism as "sad" unlike you do. As you let us know here.

Even though you know I don't truly believe you're a misandrist, hopefully you can see why I have to keep saying you are to point that out to you?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Do you see the Women's rights activism as "sad?" I don't see it as that, maybe I sometimes see them as wrong in my opinion, but not "sad" Just the same way I don't see the men's rights activism as "sad" unlike you do. As you let us know here.

Even though you know I don't truly believe you're a misandrist, hopefully you can see why I have to keep saying you are to point that out to you?

To be a misandrist I'd have to dislike them because they're men - but I dislike these specific people because they're such sad, whiney, pathetic, terminally lonely little characters who when it comes down to it are only moaning about the fact that they seem not to know how to interact with human beings other than other whiney blokes in the same position as them... So they're caught in an endless cycle of feeling sorry for themselves, and seeking to "take their power back!" by listening to these YouTube rants and drooling over Andrew Tate.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

To be a misandrist I'd have to dislike them because they're men - but I dislike these specific people because they're such sad, whiney, pathetic, terminally lonely little characters who when it comes down to it are only moaning about the fact that they seem not to know how to interact with human beings other than other whiney blokes in the same position as them... So they're caught in an endless cycle of feeling sorry for themselves, and seeking to "take their power back!" by listening to these YouTube rants and drooling over Andrew Tate.

Don't take them so seriously and let them make you angry, they're just actors.