[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Hmm, it's almost like people were stereotyping when they said that people who don;t vote Tory are more likely not to have any ID...

The thing is that it probably IS true (though not to the extent some might have claimed) and that suggests the true sentiment is even more disastrous for the Tories than the current panning they're getting would suggest.

I'm STILL not convinced we'll shake them off at the next GE though ... they'll have tricks up their sleeve to roll out for that.

Though Labour will likely be helped somewhat with Scottish votes now that the SNP have ****ing imploded .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The thing is that it probably IS true (though not to the extent some might have claimed) and that suggests the true sentiment is even more disastrous for the Tories than the current panning they're getting would suggest.

Weelllllll, you need photo ID to claim benefits, so that must be why so many people were still about to vote non-Tory.
(Hey, others are stereotyping, so why can't i?)

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm STILL not convinced we'll shake them off at the next GE though ... they'll have tricks up their sleeve to roll out for that.

Though Labour will likely be helped somewhat with Scottish votes now that the SNP have ****ing imploded .

I think I read somewhere (or even worked out myself, can't remember!) that even if every Opposition party formed together, the Tories would still outnumber them. Even with the SNP kamakazeing, it's a massive hill to climb. Would need a bigger turnaround than Blair managed.

I think the probable outcome will be a squeak-through for the Tories, with a victory for Labour in the following one.

Especially if people are still whining about a party who's not in power shifting the theoretical things they might do if they were, on either side of a pandemic and getting involved in a war.
(Wahhhh, and Bregthit!!!)

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Weelllllll, you need photo ID to claim benefits, so that must be why so many people were still about to vote non-Tory.
(Hey, others are stereotyping, so why can't i?)



I think I read somewhere (or even worked out myself, can't remember!) that even if every Opposition party formed together, the Tories would still outnumber them. Even with the SNP kamakazeing, it's a massive hill to climb. Would need a bigger turnaround than Blair managed.

I think the probable outcome will be a squeak-through for the Tories, with a victory for Labour in the following one.

Especially if people are still whining about a party who's not in power shifting the theoretical things they might do if they were, on either side of a pandemic and getting involved in a war.
(Wahhhh, and Bregthit!!!)

That's the idea of having a parliamentary majority

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Weelllllll, you need photo ID to claim benefits

No you don't

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

No you don't

For reals?!

Blimey.

That's probably something which gets exploited more than poll booths

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

For reals?!

Blimey.

That's probably something which gets exploited more than poll booths

It's fully linked to NI number and contributions and has to be paid into a verified UK bank account in the claimants name, so not really ... a photo ID would be much easier to fake... I suspect anyone capable of that level of fraud/identity theft is after a little bit more than Universal Credit .