[Redway]

Whether you're into clubbing or not depends on all sorts (your age, how introverted/extroverted you are, etc.) but how often (at-least if you're within that 18-to-34 age-demographic) do you generally club, or how often did you used to when you were that age?

[Niamh.]

I was never a massive club fan, I always preferred a late bar. I hate dancing, I hate having to shout when you're trying to have a conversation and I like sitting down and yes i was like that even at 18. So yeah I only went to Clubs if there was no good pub option available or everyone else was going there

[bots]

i was a regular at some clubs in london, but i never danced

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I was never a massive club fan, I always preferred a late bar. I hate dancing, I hate having to shout when you're trying to have a conversation and I like sitting down and yes i was like that even at 18. So yeah I only went to Clubs if there was no good pub option available or everyone else was going there

Ditto. I really didn't mind being invited out to club back in fresher days (etc.) and no-doubt I'd have a good night but generally I'm much more of a bar/pub.-crawler. The drinks available at bars especially are a bit more sophisticated than the usual slew of cocktails and vodka-cokes you get at clubs. Vodka f-d me up too much when I was 18 so I tend to steer clear of it now. If I want to drink spirits, it's usually gin or (less commonly) rum. I'm really not about the vodka life anymore. I never was outside of a few months and my first time getting drunk (I was 16 and ended up puking it out after necking a small Glenn's more-or-less entirely on t'rocks).

Do they have Slug and Lettuce in Ireland?

Edit: The Famous Grouse is a good spirit, too. And I don't normally like whiskey that much.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i was a regular at some clubs in london, but i never danced

Don't worry. Dancing's the one thing I never did, no-matter how drunk I was. And I've been pretty drunk at clubs.

I danced at a party once about 15 years ago but I was stone-cold sober.

[Redway]

"Relatively but I will initiate/did initiate plans for it sometimes."

[Relatively] low^

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Ditto. I really didn't mind being invited out to club back in fresher days (etc.) and no-doubt I'd have a good night but generally I'm much more of a bar/pub.-crawler. The drinks available at bars especially are a bit more sophisticated than the usual slew of cocktails and vodka-cokes you get at clubs. Vodka f-d me up too much when I was 18 so I tend to steer clear of it now. If I want to drink spirits, it's usually gin or (less commonly) rum. I'm really not about the vodka life anymore. I never was outside of a few months and my first time getting drunk (I was 16 and ended up puking it out after necking a small Glenn's more-or-less entirely on t'rocks).

Do they have Slug and Lettuce in Ireland?

No our Pubs aren't like the way it is in Britain where most are owned by Brewerys and have Managers who run them. Here Pubs are owned or leased by individual people, you'll find a lot of Pubs names are the surname of the owner/owners. We don't really have Pub chains

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

"Relatively but I will initiate/did initiate plans for it sometimes."

[Relatively] low^

I've edited that for you

[AnnieK]

My clubbing days involved loads of rave clubs - including illegal raves all over the show. Best days ever. Every weekend without fail and danced my legs off

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My clubbing days involved loads of rave clubs - including illegal raves all over the show. Best days ever. Every weekend without fail and danced my legs off

I went to one of those in London in the 90's in a warehouse, it was an experience, great night/morning though

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No our Pubs aren't like the way it is in Britain where most are owned by Brewerys and have Managers who run them. Here Pubs are owned or leased by individual people, you'll find a lot Pubs names are the surname of the owner/owners. We don't really have Pub chains

Ah, I see. Gotcha. Slug and Lettuce, 'though, is a type of bar-chain. I was just wondering if you had that as far as bar options go.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I've edited that for you

Much-appreciated. Could you also edit: Very low. I'm extremely introverted so I almost never clubbed, even when I was young(er)

to

Very low. I'm extremely introverted so I almost never club(bed), even when I was young(er)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Ah, I see. Gotcha. Slug and Lettuce, 'though, is a type of bar-chain. I was just wondering if you had that as far as bar options go.

Nah we don't really do chains, there are some really good options for bars/pubs over here though

Much-appreciated. Could you also edit: Very low. I'm extremely introverted so I almost never clubbed, even when I was young(er)

to

Very low. I'm extremely introverted so I almost never club(bed), even when I was young(er)

done

[Swan]

I always preferred house parties, usually happy hardcore music, and lots of love, and certain stimulants. But i did attend clubs here and there.

Walking home from a random house party at 5am, sun already starting to get warm, can of warm fosters in hand, and delaying the come down as much as possible. Good times. Then sleeping most of the day, and doing it all over again on Sat night.

Monday's though...........

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Nah we don't really do chains, there are some really good options for bars/pubs over here though



done

Appreciate it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the 80s Friday and Sat. Start at around 6 and go to club at 11 ish and
leave at 2 - pished and go down and get food (little Turkish take-away still
there with the same frontage and sign in 2023)

90s Go out Friday and sat at midnight, score in some dodgy tower block, club
(like Ministry, The Cross, Turnmills(( 3am to 1pm on a Sunday afternoon))
till 6-8am. Go back home and drink till we could get to sleep which would be
around 12 or if it was an out of town rave then it involved cars and would be
a Friday sat all in one thing.

DO the whole weekend on one bowl of shreddies

finally feel normal by weds at work, spend all day Monday white and sweating

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

I always preferred house parties, usually happy hardcore music, and lots of love, and certain stimulants. But i did attend clubs here and there.

Walking home from a random house party at 5am, sun already starting to get warm, can of warm fosters in hand, and delaying the come down as much as possible. Good times. Then sleeping most of the day, and doing it all over again on Sat night.

Monday's though...........

What stimulants? Are we talking Red Bull or crystal meth.?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In the 80s Friday and Sat. Start at around 6 and go to club at 11 ish and
leave at 2 - pished and go down and get food (little Turkish take-away still
there with the same frontage and sign in 2023)

90s Go out Friday and sat at midnight, score in some dodgy tower block, club
(like Ministry, The Cross, Turnmills(( 3am to 1pm on a Sunday afternoon))
till 6-8am. Go back home and drink till we could get to sleep which would be
around 12 or if it was an out of town rave then it involved cars and would be
a Friday sat all in one thing.

DO the whole weekend on one bowl of shreddies

finally feel normal by weds at work, spend all day Monday white and sweating

Ouch.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

What stimulants? Are we talking Red Bull or crystal meth.?

Cocaine was my go to, if i was flush. But i'd regularly do Speed too, which is a rotten drug. Those were my worse come downs. Maybe an E or 2 too. Washed down with weak lager.

Never again, on that scale anyway.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

Cocaine was my go to, if i was flush. But i'd regularly do Speed too, which is a rotten drug. Those were my worse come downs. Maybe an E or 2 too. Washed down with weak lager.

Never again, on that scale anyway.

One thing about ecstasy/M.D.M.A. to be kind of wary of is that it’s very incompatible with a lot of antidepressants, especially MAOIs (a slightly older class of medication that can be especially good for social anxiety and treatment-resistant depression, whether it’s mildly moderate or severe). Tranylcypromine is somehow related to amphetamine so a lot of people “abuse” it for that reason but that or phenelzine + M.D.M.A. = coma/death. I’m not too sure about SSRIs, tricyclics, venlafaxine and lighter MAOIs (like moclobemide) but at the least it’s probably best not to mix any antidepressants at all with ecstasy. Some girl from my uni. (years ago) died from some sort of overdose and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a case of something like that (mixing the wrong drugs together).
Likewise for diazepam and alcohol. A lot of people take benzo’s (inasmuch as most doctors are pretty hesitant to prescribe them) but mixing Valium with booze can sort of cause people to black out and even incur fatal consequence-effects. I’m guessing you can probably almost always get away with a few beers, a bottle of perry or a glass or two of wine (I drank a lot of beer during the time I was taking diazepam) but anything from more than two glasses of wine upwards it can be quite dangerous. That’s why I wish more doctors would advocate more for the L.O.T. benzodiazepines (lorazepam, oxazepam and temazepam) more than just prescribing Valium or (in America at-least anyway) Xanax. People kind of seem to get by okay-ish drinking moderate amounts of alcohol on clonazepam and maybe Xanax to an extent but I just don’t get why doctors often prefer to prescribe diazepam knowing full-well that the average person likes a good drink and since none of the L.O.T.-benzo’s interfere with alcohol or just-about any other drug. They can sometimes be thought of as tranquillisers for older people because they bypass liver metabolism (and older people, especially if they have any personal history of alcoholism/problem-drinking, are naturally more likely to have hepatic issues) but generally they seem to be safer than the other benzo’s, no matter how young you are or what’s going on with your liver. Lorazepam can be addictive for some people but oxazepam carries a much lesser risk there. And the funny thing is oxazepam’s actually a metabolite of diazepam. I don’t know how you’d be on a night out after taking 60 milligrams of the stuff straight-up one Friday night but it might stop you from getting too freaked out on stimulants if you’re someone who takes them and gets uncomfortable when high on them at times. But with the other benzo’s alcohol’s a no-no. You don’t want to be blacking out to the point of being borderline-comatose or getting aggressive after drinking a few Stellas or some Piot on clonazepam and end up in a jail-cell or asleep for 20 hours. If you want to spend all of Saturday/Sunday in bed or think the highlights of the night before make up for spending the rest of the night in prison then that’s your choice but it does actually need to be your sensible and cognisant/involved choice, not the diazepam-tequila-absinthe-flavoured speedball talking. That’s why you have to be so careful drinking on any of the non.-L.O.T. minor tranquilisers.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

One thing about ecstasy/M.D.M.A. to be kind of wary of is that it’s very incompatible with a lot of antidepressants, especially MAOIs (a slightly older class of medication that can be especially good for social anxiety and treatment-resistant depression, whether it’s mildly moderate or severe). Tranylcypromine is somehow related to amphetamine so a lot of people “abuse” it for that reason but that or phenelzine + M.D.M.A. = coma/death. I’m not too sure about SSRIs, tricyclics, venlafaxine and lighter MAOIs (like moclobemide) but it’s probably not the best idea.

Tbh i don't think i've done a E/MDMA for over 15 years now. The only drug i occasionally take now is cocaine. And that's about once every 6 months.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

Tbh i don't think i've done a E/MDMA for over 15 years now. The only drug i occasionally take now is cocaine. And that's about once every 6 months.

Still not sure about cocaine. Unless you take beta-blockers the chance of having a heart attack if you ‘accidentally’ overdose is worryingly high. I know there’s a way to do all these things safely but compared to ketamine (which is sometimes used in America for people with depression, as a sort of experimental treatment) cocaine just seems like a big risk if you don’t know what you’re doing or drink a lot alongside taking it (which I know is the common way). Wetherspoons can get lairy on Friday/Saturday nights for that reason and when it’s chavs (if you can still use that term in 2023) and/or oafish middle-aged fellas it can be kind of scary.

[Redway]

Anyway, people snort coke every weekend without going into random cardiac arrest so it is what it is. It’s just not my thing. Never has been, never will be.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

Anyway, people snort coke every weekend without going into random cardiac arrest so it is what it is. It’s just not my thing. Never has been, never will be.

If you get good stuff it is a nice feeling. The below average stuff is very meh. Like i say, can take it or leave it, and don't do it much now.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

If you get good stuff it is a nice feeling. The below average stuff is very meh. Like i say, can take it or leave it, and don't do it much now.

Yeah but even at that how long does that “nice feeling” last at a time? 20 minutes? A half-hour?

Anyway, it’s just me being the way I am. I have a lot of time and tolerance for weed and psychedelics but for various reasons I’m very anti-stimulant. That’s just my personal bias talking.

[MTVN]

I've always felt like a bit of a fraud in clubs like I'm trying to persuade myself I'm having a good time when actually I'd rather be anywhere else.

I can't dance, the music is normally ****e, it's too loud to talk, the drinks are crap, it's expensive, they go on way too late and they're full of nobheads