[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think this is why the coverage and discourse in Ireland is a bit different to most of the rest of western countries. It's comparable to how Irish people were treated and spoken about not that long ago.

During the troubles, I never felt unsafe in the UK, yes there were stupid people who said stupid things, or thought all Irish people were members of the IRA but in the main there were no issues, I think you lived here for a period of that time too? I don't think Jews in Britain or anywhere in the world no matter what their views feel 100% safe today

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

During the troubles, I never felt unsafe in the UK, yes there were stupid people who said stupid things, or thought all Irish people were members of the IRA but in the main there were no issues, I think you lived here for a period of that time too? I don't think Jews in Britain or anywhere in the world no matter what their views feel 100% safe today

In the 90's I definitely felt some backlash but generally it was ok. I was more talking a little further back than that though about Irish people being referred as savages etc

https://medium.com/special-collectio...e-3c9196f2c28d

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In the 90's I definitely felt some backlash but generally it was ok. I was more talking a little further back than that though about Irish people being referred as savages etc

https://medium.com/special-collectio...e-3c9196f2c28d

Yeah I get the point you are making, I am just trying to draw from my own experience of being in England during some of the 'Troubles' that I never felt unsafe but I don't think the current situation Jews find themselves is the same

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yeah I get the point you are making, I am just trying to draw from my own experience of being in England during some of the 'Troubles' that I never felt unsafe but I don't think the current situation Jews find themselves is the same

I was just making that specific point about the dehumanising language and how similar it was to how we Irish we're labelled and spoken about at one point in time.

Unfortunately I think both religious groups may be feeling unsafe in Britain at the moment, I definitely understand that

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I was just making that specific point about the dehumanising language and how similar it was to how we Irish we're labelled and spoken about at one point in time.

Unfortunately I think both religious groups may be feeling unsafe in Britain at the moment, I definitely understand that

The visible support is for the Palestinians though via the numbers that turn out at Marches , (even though the UK is allegedly very racist) so they can take comfort from that at least, Jews in the meantime have been told not to wear Jewish jewellery or Kippagh and have security on their schools

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

During the troubles, I never felt unsafe in the UK, yes there were stupid people who said stupid things, or thought all Irish people were members of the IRA but in the main there were no issues, I think you lived here for a period of that time too? I don't think Jews in Britain or anywhere in the world no matter what their views feel 100% safe today

Well, there's no such thing as visibly Irish.

I don't say that flippantly - I know accents are a thing and I know that people are and have been persecuted on the basis of an accent - but it's worth pointing out that there's an element of Othering that can only occur with race. A huge proportion of Britain has Irish blood somewhere in their past - not so with Jews/Muslims.

I can also tell you for a fact that the situation was not the same in the West of Scotland and there was lots (and lots) of sectarian violence ... but the whole place is bright Orange so that's unsurprising. One step away from National Front.