[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Cherie

not a Paul fan but that is completely untrue there is no suggestion the skeleton was called Hallie don't rewrite history

I'm not the one ' rewriting history ' , it was mentioned on TIBB and other platforms. Apparently it was in the LF and cut from the HL. The show is that heavily edited .

[Abra]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

If you're talking about Paul , he dressed up a skeleton from the Halloween decorations, he called it male ....and stuck something suggestive to it ,and called it ' Hallie ' .

He also was saying something about wanting a straight pride . And how hard it is for straight people, apparently Olivia was agreeing with him.
All these things were cut out of HL shows,but were in the LF .

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm not the one ' rewriting history ' , it was mentioned on TIBB and other platforms. Apparently it was in the LF and cut from the HL. The show is that heavily edited .

Look, I wasn't a fan of Paul in the house but I'm also not going to claim he did something that we don't have any evidence of. I looked into the thing about the skeleton and turns out there is no footage of that happening, but a few accounts that hated Paul claimed they heard it on the live feed but conveniently there hasn't been any footage of it emerge.

And I remember the conversation about "straight pride" as I was watching it when it happened. It was a bit tone deaf and ignorant, but hardly homophobic, and I say that as a gay man who had a problem with Kerry's use of the word "gay" as a negative. In a long conversation, Paul ASKED Matty if it would be homophobic for him to say there should or could be a straight pride, then Matty explained to him why a straight pride event isn't really needed but he could have one if he wanted to. Paul didn't use any homophobic language or express anything that was homophobic, he just seemed a bit out of touch.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Abra

Look, I wasn't a fan of Paul in the house but I'm also not going to claim he did something that we don't have any evidence of. I looked into the thing about the skeleton and turns out there is no footage of that happening, but a few accounts that hated Paul claimed they heard it on the live feed but conveniently there hasn't been any footage of it emerge.

And I remember the conversation about "straight pride" as I was watching it when it happened. It was a bit tone deaf and ignorant, but hardly homophobic, and I say that as a gay man who had a problem with Kerry's use of the word "gay" as a negative. In a long conversation, Paul ASKED Matty if it would be homophobic for him to say there should or could be a straight pride, then Matty explained to him why a straight pride event isn't really needed but he could have one if he wanted to. Paul didn't use any homophobic language or express anything that was homophobic, he just seemed a bit out of touch.

Old messages of Paul also resurfaced the net of him saying offensive stuff ,those things seem to have disappeared now .

[Abra]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Old messages of Paul also resurfaced the net of him saying offensive stuff ,those things seem to have disappeared now .

Again, I've seen a lot of talk about these things existing but haven't actually seen the evidence myself.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Abra

Look, I wasn't a fan of Paul in the house but I'm also not going to claim he did something that we don't have any evidence of. I looked into the thing about the skeleton and turns out there is no footage of that happening, but a few accounts that hated Paul claimed they heard it on the live feed but conveniently there hasn't been any footage of it emerge.

And I remember the conversation about "straight pride" as I was watching it when it happened. It was a bit tone deaf and ignorant, but hardly homophobic, and I say that as a gay man who had a problem with Kerry's use of the word "gay" as a negative. In a long conversation, Paul ASKED Matty if it would be homophobic for him to say there should or could be a straight pride, then Matty explained to him why a straight pride event isn't really needed but he could have one if he wanted to. Paul didn't use any homophobic language or express anything that was homophobic, he just seemed a bit out of touch.

…it’s actually nice to have that account of the Paul and the skeleton mystery from someone who was watching livefeed because it was still so unclear after rewatching several times…and the Paul/Matty conversation also…from a highlight only watcher, for me Paul only emerged from more a background type housemate with bully-gate at Yinrun’s party…when even his own ‘camp’ seemed quite unimpressed with his behaviour…so yeah, it’s good to have this take you’re giving….great balanced post btw….…

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s actually nice to have that account of the Paul and the skeleton mystery from someone who was watching livefeed because it was still so unclear after rewatching several times…and the Paul/Matty conversation also…from a highlight only watcher, for me Paul only emerged from more a background type housemate with bully-gate at Yinrun’s party…when even his own ‘camp’ seemed quite unimpressed with his behaviour…so yeah, it’s good to have this take you’re giving….great balanced post btw….…

No problem, glad I could clear it up because I've seen it being posted around a few times and being taken out of context. Like I said, I didn't agree with some things that Paul did in the house but I also don't think it's fair to label him with something that's being taken out of context. In fact, in that conversation that included the "straight pride" discussion, that conversation went on for close to an hour and Paul said a lot of things about how much he admires gay people and their courage to be who they are and how he has gay friends who he prefers to go out with more than his straight friends because he has more fun with them, so I found it quite strange that the narrative got twisted into him being homophobic because he asked a question. He wasn't even saying there should be a straight pride, he asked Matty if it would be homophobic for him to say that.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Abra

No problem, glad I could clear it up because I've seen it being posted around a few times and being taken out of context. Like I said, I didn't agree with some things that Paul did in the house but I also don't think it's fair to label him with something that's being taken out of context. In fact, in that conversation that included the "straight pride" discussion, that conversation went on for close to an hour and Paul said a lot of things about how much he admires gay people and their courage to be who they are and how he has gay friends who he prefers to go out with more than his straight friends because he has more fun with them, so I found it quite strange that the narrative got twisted into him being homophobic because he asked a question. He wasn't even saying there should be a straight pride, he asked Matty if it would be homophobic for him to say that.

…yeah and that’s the thing as well, isn’t it…the great way to learn to ask…I mean, obviously we can learn so much through the age of the Internet etc …but it’s so much easier to personally engage and connect also through personal conversations….and one of the things that I hoped to see more of was the trans questions and conversations that I thought might happen much more that’s they did, after Hallie revealed her journey through transitioning….this has always been the thing with BB…from seeing the bio of each housemate and how we feel some may ‘clash’ in their mindsets but then seeing understandings and friendships developing because housemates are ‘taken out of their world’ and blended together in an isolated house with so many people from so many different backgrounds and environments etc…obviously we like dramas at times as well……but the conversation……and the growth of housemates…

…I found a vid of Paul after he was evicted, I think it was…he was talking about mental health and other topics…I haven’t watched it through yet because it’s quite long and I haven’t had the time…but after BB, I’m going to find time to watch it…and very much inspired and motivated by what you’ve said……


..the vid if anyone else wanted to watch it and has the time to etc…

Youtube video

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Abra

Look, I wasn't a fan of Paul in the house but I'm also not going to claim he did something that we don't have any evidence of. I looked into the thing about the skeleton and turns out there is no footage of that happening, but a few accounts that hated Paul claimed they heard it on the live feed but conveniently there hasn't been any footage of it emerge.

And I remember the conversation about "straight pride" as I was watching it when it happened. It was a bit tone deaf and ignorant, but hardly homophobic, and I say that as a gay man who had a problem with Kerry's use of the word "gay" as a negative. In a long conversation, Paul ASKED Matty if it would be homophobic for him to say there should or could be a straight pride, then Matty explained to him why a straight pride event isn't really needed but he could have one if he wanted to. Paul didn't use any homophobic language or express anything that was homophobic, he just seemed a bit out of touch.

...allow me to introduce you to the event with my not ok postings.
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...%3Clink%20rel=


https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...%3Clink%20rel=

[Abra]

Originally Posted by parmnion

...allow me to introduce you to the event with my not ok postings.
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...%3Clink%20rel=


https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...%3Clink%20rel=

And nowhere in that video does he refer to the skeleton as "Hallie", so once again you're inventing something that never happened and posting about it on here. I wish you would surprise us by saying something coherent for once.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Abra

And nowhere in that video does he refer to the skeleton as "Hallie", so once again you're inventing something that never happened and posting about it on here. I wish you would surprise us by saying something coherent for once.

poor Parmy left wigless

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Abra

And nowhere in that video does he refer to the skeleton as "Hallie", so once again you're inventing something that never happened and posting about it on here. I wish you would surprise us by saying something coherent for once.

I'm perhaps assuming this...but in his chimp like mind....

He will be calling halloween, Hailieween. Thus making the model, a haillieween model, rather than a halloween model..hence the cock and fake breasts.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm perhaps assuming this...but in his chimp like mind....

He will be calling halloween, Hailieween. This making the model, a haillieween model, rather than a halloween model..hence the cock and fake breasts.

Please just seek some help.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Abra

Please just seek some help.

Makes sense to me..james posted and closed my other thread, that showed a video clip from a Trish lover claiming paul was being homophobic.

James posted the exact same clip but with a different viewpoint as commentary.. he didnt discount nothing about Paul NOT being transphobic..


My opinion about the Halloween and Hallieween makes most sense.

So I dknt need help thank you l, I am not the subject of twitter feeds, so shall not be treated as one on TIBB...

So you get help l, get help with your intolerance to perfectly reasoned opinions for your futre use of TIBB