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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Shameful that some fans actually cheered Man City's first goal.

Did Son miss on purpose? Of course not but I can see why some of the more deluded think so. Even Danny Murphy has said it was an easy chance and Son looked off all game.

On the other hand the Spurs fans cheering a loss is real. That's the talking point IMO I hope Ange sees this and puts his hat in the ring for the Man Utd job cuz with the right squad he'll do well, shame he'll never get a great squad at Spurs


On to next year. I'm happy with where my team are , can Spurs fans, West Ham fans, Man Utd fans, Chelsea fans say that?.

The lot of you need to wind your necks in. Arsenal pushed Man City to the last game of the season in a genuine two horse race. Not three horse cuz Liverpool couldn't last the pace and apparently it was gonna be Liverpool's pedigree in the run in that would tip the scale. Remember when alot of people thought Arsenal would finish 3rd. Now people are like 'HaHa!!! You lost again' Serious though, real talk, how many better teams are there in the Premiership.?

Arsenal are one of the top clubs in the premiership. No one can deny it.

Honestly yeah, we've had three great years at West Ham and have some optimism for next season. Spurs feel like they've advanced a lot this year, Chelsea feel they've turned a corner, and even United have won something more recently than Arsenal. Arsenal are not that enviable imo

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Honestly yeah, we've had three great years at West Ham and have some optimism for next season. Spurs feel like they've advanced a lot this year, Chelsea feel they've turned a corner, and even United have won something more recently than Arsenal. Arsenal are not that enviable imo

Thought you were serious till I saw the bit in bold.

To counter,

West Ham - Saw you live against Forest. You stunk up the City Ground pitch. Yeah you did. It was embarrassing against dopey dozey Forest.

Spurs - The fans can gas it but they hit a wall in March. Did Arsenal hit a wall in March? Celebrating a loss is embarrassing but as Ange has pointed out, its the culture at this club

Man Utd - The problems have been there for years and are well documented. I cant add more. They can win the fizzy drink trophy and it papers over the cracks.

Chelsea - Without Palmer I see a 2nd rate dysfunctional team.

Arsenal - Strong teem. No physically as well. A manager who addresses all aspects of the game. is becoming a great in game manager and has the support of the players. Players like Saka, Saliba and Odergaard who were all purchased on the cheap but are now 80 million plus players and improving each year. I'm not asking anyone to be envious but you have to admit Arsenal are heading in the right direction

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thought you were serious till I saw the bit in bold.

To counter,

West Ham - Saw you live against Forest. You stunk up the City Ground pitch. Yeah you did. It was embarrassing against dopey dozey Forest.

Spurs - The fans can gas it but they hit a wall in March. Did Arsenal hit a wall in March? Celebrating a loss is embarrassing but as Ange has pointed out, its the culture at this club

Man Utd - The problems have been there for years and are well documented. I cant add more. They can win the fizzy drink trophy and it papers over the cracks.

Chelsea - Without Palmer I see a 2nd rate dysfunctional team.

Arsenal - Strong teem. No physically as well. A manager who addresses all aspects of the game. is becoming a great in game manager and has the support of the players. Players like Saka, Saliba and Odergaard who were all purchased on the cheap but are now 80 million plus players and improving each year. I'm not asking anyone to be envious but you have to admit Arsenal are heading in the right direction

Well it's all relative. Yeah we've had some shockers this year (part of the reason we're moving on from Moyes) but we've still had three great years compared to our recent history, three solid European campaigns and one trophy. Moyes leaves us in a good place overall.

Spurs are earlier in their journey than Arsenal but again, relative to the last couple of seasons they have progressed. Chelsea have as well but I still don't expect them to properly competing for another couple of years.

Arsenal have done well but fact remains they will come up short again and have another trophyless season. Both last year and this season have been major opportunities as well because City haven't been quite at it for patches of the season. Arsenal have also been more boring to watch this season than last year

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Well it's all relative. Yeah we've had some shockers this year (part of the reason we're moving on from Moyes) but we've still had three great years compared to our recent history, three solid European campaigns and one trophy. Moyes leaves us in a good place overall.

Spurs are earlier in their journey than Arsenal but again, relative to the last couple of seasons they have progressed. Chelsea have as well but I still don't expect them to properly competing for another couple of years.

Arsenal have done well but fact remains they will come up short again and have another trophyless season. Both last year and this season have been major opportunities as well because City haven't been quite at it for patches of the season. Arsenal have also been more boring to watch this season than last year

Spurs have a long long way to go. The fans dont think so but they do. There will be a clear out before they can see what Ange is up to. I like that he is blaming the players and not his tactics cuz at this point in the process he is correct. IF he get the squad he wants then he may do well but I doubt he ever will. I think Mr Levy will stop the investment when SPurs get top four. As I mentioned in another thread Arletta won the FA cup in his first year and it also gave him alot of capital with the fans. I doubt if SPurs will go unbeaten in their first ten games again now everyone has seen Ange-ball close up and know how to counter it.

I really object to the point you make in the third paragraph. First, there are only four trophies anyone can win and Arsenal won one last year. Not the trophy anyone remember but with Man City around Winning anything is much harder than before. Arsenal have won more league games this season than the invincible year. Its so much harder to get past Man City than any other team in the history of the Prem.

You say 'boring' I say 'control'. The 100 mile an hour football of 2023 was not sustainable. I like that the team can control games then turn on the gas. I like the way Arsenal play this year much more than last. Last year we were always in fear of going two goals down. Now , no chance. The closest was Luton and we scored in the ,last minute to get past them. This Arsenal team are no pushover and if that mean we lose a bit of excitement, I have no issues.