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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thought you were serious till I saw the bit in bold.

To counter,

West Ham - Saw you live against Forest. You stunk up the City Ground pitch. Yeah you did. It was embarrassing against dopey dozey Forest.

Spurs - The fans can gas it but they hit a wall in March. Did Arsenal hit a wall in March? Celebrating a loss is embarrassing but as Ange has pointed out, its the culture at this club

Man Utd - The problems have been there for years and are well documented. I cant add more. They can win the fizzy drink trophy and it papers over the cracks.

Chelsea - Without Palmer I see a 2nd rate dysfunctional team.

Arsenal - Strong teem. No physically as well. A manager who addresses all aspects of the game. is becoming a great in game manager and has the support of the players. Players like Saka, Saliba and Odergaard who were all purchased on the cheap but are now 80 million plus players and improving each year. I'm not asking anyone to be envious but you have to admit Arsenal are heading in the right direction

Well it's all relative. Yeah we've had some shockers this year (part of the reason we're moving on from Moyes) but we've still had three great years compared to our recent history, three solid European campaigns and one trophy. Moyes leaves us in a good place overall.

Spurs are earlier in their journey than Arsenal but again, relative to the last couple of seasons they have progressed. Chelsea have as well but I still don't expect them to properly competing for another couple of years.

Arsenal have done well but fact remains they will come up short again and have another trophyless season. Both last year and this season have been major opportunities as well because City haven't been quite at it for patches of the season. Arsenal have also been more boring to watch this season than last year