[Crimson Dynamo]

Pope Francis allegedly told a closed-door meeting of Italian bishops not to
allow gay men to train for the priesthood, with two Italian newspapers
reporting that the Pope used Italian slang for homosexuals during the course
of the conversation.

Citing sources who had attended the meeting, the Corriere della Sera and La
Repubblica newspapers claimed that the 87-year-old Pontiff had said there is
“frociaggine” – which translates in English to f*g**try” – in some of the
seminaries.

Many received the Pope’s comments with surprise, as Francis has often been
perceived by some as a liberal reformer when it comes to the Church’s stance
on homosexuality.

So you know how Pope Francis is generally portrayed as a big cuddly liberal?
He has just used perhaps the most offensive homophobic term in Italian
(basically f*g**t) while calling on bishops not to accept any seminarians who are gay.

— Marcus Walker (@WalkerMarcus) May 27, 2024


https://gript.ie/pope-used-derogator...papers-report/

[user104658]

F *gg**ts

[Zizu]

Pity we cant simply erase religion and politics from our existence


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[Niamh.]

Priests are supposed to be celibate so I don't see how he would know someones sexual preference or why it would even matter since none of them are supposed to be having "relations" with anyone, male or female

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Pity we cant simply erase religion and politics from our existence


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Meh. You can't erase politics without erasing people entirely, and when it comes down to it religion is just politics but with added spooky bits.

[arista]

Yes it's the Strict Pope

Gay not Liked

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Priests are supposed to be celibate so I don't see how he would know someones sexual preference or why it would even matter since none of them are supposed to be having "relations" with anyone, male or female

They're also explicitly not supposed to judge the actions of others on earth even if they believe that person will be judged by God eventually - they're supposed to love unconditionally, leave people to their own path, and trust that it'll all be sorted out on Judgement Day. Taking judgement into their own hands is actually blasphemous.

But hey let's not let the technicalities of Christianity get in the way of some good old fashioned religious outrage.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

They're also explicitly not supposed to judge the actions of others on earth even if they believe that person will be judged by God eventually - they're supposed to love unconditionally, leave people to their own path, and trust that it'll all be sorted out on Judgement Day. Taking judgement into their own hands is actually blasphemous.

But hey let's not let the technicalities of Christianity get in the way of some good old fashioned religious outrage.

Plus we all know most of them aren't celibate anyway Thanks for confirming Padre

[arista]

[Vatican apologises after Pope Francis uses
derogatory term for gay men

The Pope reportedly uses a derogatory
term towards gay men in a private meeting
with bishops - where he is said to have
reiterated they should not be allowed to become priests.

Tuesday 28 May 2024 14:11]



https://news.sky.com/story/pope-fran...claim-13144217

[Ammi]

…forgive him Father, for he has sinned…

[UserSince2005]

cancel it

[bots]

He was thinking about his evening meal and made a mistake

He was just saying he fancied a pizza rather than what he usually gets served up on a Sunday

[Livia]

Disgusting. But not wholly a surprise.

[Cherie]

We have a whistle blowing bishop

[arista]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We have a whistle blowing bishop

as opposed to a Bishop blowing choir boys

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as opposed to a Bishop blowing choir boys

Indeed

[bots]

old man says something he shouldn't shocker

[Ammi]

…tbf, what nationality is he…Argentinian…?…he wouldn’t have been speaking his first language in speaking Italian, so it might not always translate exactly as intended…

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…tbf, what nationality is he…Argentinian…?…he wouldn’t have been speaking his first language in speaking Italian, so it might not always translate exactly as intended…

there are several levels of interpretation .... Spanish to Italian and then Italian to english .... all of that leads to misinterpretation .

The guy comes from a different generation, he is allowed to speak whats on his mind due to his position, where others of a similar age wouldn't get the opportunity. People can't help thinking what they think and as we get older stuff slips out that we would perhaps phrase better given an opportunity.

Its what happens when you give elderly people a microphone

All that being said, it highlights what people really think, and i would rather know that than not and have it all hushed up. We at least now know what the leadership of the catholic church are thinking

[Crimson Dynamo]

Older people cant keep up with all the new-fangled words, here Gareth explains

Youtube video

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are several levels of interpretation .... Spanish to Italian and then Italian to english .... all of that leads to misinterpretation .

The guy comes from a different generation, he is allowed to speak whats on his mind due to his position, where others of a similar age wouldn't get the opportunity. People can't help thinking what they think and as we get older stuff slips out that we would perhaps phrase better given an opportunity.

Its what happens when you give elderly people a microphone

All that being said, it highlights what people really think, and i would rather know that than not and have it all hushed up. We at least now know what the leadership of the catholic church are thinking

…I’m not sure that it was what was on his mind though…but more that he has caused some kerfuffles before in some things he’s said which have been translated, using slang…(…or in this case, a derogatory and offensive term…)…and not fully realised the meaning….he has seemed quite accepting in many things that the Catholic Church hasn’t previously been and his apology was very immediate and gracious and fully acknowledging that he had offended but not knowingly at the time…(…is what I’m thinking…)…

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m not sure that it was what was on his mind though…but more that he has caused some kerfuffles before in some things he’s said which have been translated, using slang…(…or in this case, a derogatory and offensive term…)…and not fully realised the meaning….he has seemed quite accepting in many things that the Catholic Church hasn’t previously been and his apology was very immediate and gracious and fully acknowledging that he had offended but not knowingly at the time…(…is what I’m thinking…)…

I agree, it's unfortunate but was probably partly caused by the language barrier. Francis has actually done a lot for LGBT relations with the Church generally but he is also prone to erratic moments and putting his foot in it. Plus he is still Catholic after all so he will hold views that a lot of people won't like

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I agree, it's unfortunate but was probably partly caused by the language barrier. Francis has actually done a lot for LGBT relations with the Church generally but he is also prone to erratic moments and putting his foot in it. Plus he is still Catholic after all so he will hold views that a lot of people won't like

"I agree, it's unfortunate but was probably partly caused by the language barrier."

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guy is the head of a cult that has allowed probably millions of children to be sexually abused by pedophiles

he should be in jail