[Crimson Dynamo]

Even her own Father Jon Voight had a go at her when she posted pro Hamas stuff on Insta

I would not believe a word she says

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Both her and the kids have said that he was emotionally and at times physically abusive but of course carry on, poor Sad Brad. I mean we had a fair number on here adamantly defending Johnny Depp so it's entirely unsurprising.

People loved Angelina when she was with Brad and made excuses as to why it was Jennifer Anistons fault why Brad cheated on her, now Angelina is the devil too because she's not with Brad anymore

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Even her own Father Jon Voight had a go at her when she posted pro Hamas stuff on Insta

I would not believe a word she says

Oh well if another bloke has said so then that'll be right won't it, clearly a demon, she's made her kids imagine that their dad wasn't nice to them - that crone! Probably put a hex bag under their pillow or something. Poor Brad. Maybe you should invite him along to the nearest Men's Shed for a couple of beers and a firm handjob.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Oh well if another bloke has said so then that'll be right won't it, clearly a demon, she's made her kids imagine that their dad wasn't nice to them - that crone! Probably put a hex bag under their pillow or something. Poor Brad. Maybe you should invite him along to the nearest Men's Shed for a couple of beers and a firm handjob.

She made allegations that Brad denied

bitter lady

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

She made allegations that Brad denied

bitter lady

Oh I didn't know he had denied them, that makes all the difference. I've compared pictures from 2020 to now and his nose doesn't look any longer, and his pants as far as I can tell are not even slightly on fire, so that concludes the matter. Poor Brad. Justice for Brad. Maybe he can dress up as Batman and climb a monument or something? You could help him pick out his costume (or he could borrow yours?)

[Jordan.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yep the mum really has done a number on the kids to get at Brad

nasty

[Livia]

None of us know what happened inside someone else's relationship... Not sure why some people are pretending they do.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

None of us know what happened inside someone else's relationship... Not sure why some people are pretending they do.

Here's who I'm willing to listen to when adult offspring are talking about their relationship/relationship issues/lack of relationship with their parents. It's an extensive list.

1) The adult offspring. They will have their reasons.


That's the list. I'm not interested in a parent's banal, defensive bull**** boo-hoo views on why their kids don't want anything to do with them . No one would have been able to "turn them against him" if he had a good, solid, close relationship with them prior to the relationship breakdown. She was not a small child.

You're not entitled to a relationship with your adult children any more than you're entitled to a relationship with anyone else. You build and maintain one with communication, trust and respect. He did not provide that, and he lost them (emotionally). Maybe he can win them back if he genuinely tries? WHo knows, that's their business. Getting defensive and making excuses isn't a good starting place.

To be fair to him - I actually don't know what he's had to say about it for himself, just the defensiveness being projected onto the situation by other people making assumptions about "parental alienation by a nasty woman". Sad, and so so predictable.

[joeysteele]

It really is up to her.

It's sad if there's any rift with her Father.

I don't think many years ago I'd have expected this at all as to Brad Pitt and his children.

[Crimson Dynamo]

or

she is a lefty and he is a white older male


case closed

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or

she is a lefty and he is a white older male


case closed

Whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the evening, LT.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Here's who I'm willing to listen to when adult offspring are talking about their relationship/relationship issues/lack of relationship with their parents. It's an extensive list.

1) The adult offspring. They will have their reasons.


That's the list. I'm not interested in a parent's banal, defensive bull**** boo-hoo views on why their kids don't want anything to do with them . No one would have been able to "turn them against him" if he had a good, solid, close relationship with them prior to the relationship breakdown. She was not a small child.

You're not entitled to a relationship with your adult children any more than you're entitled to a relationship with anyone else. You build and maintain one with communication, trust and respect. He did not provide that, and he lost them (emotionally). Maybe he can win them back if he genuinely tries? WHo knows, that's their business. Getting defensive and making excuses isn't a good starting place.

To be fair to him - I actually don't know what he's had to say about it for himself, just the defensiveness being projected onto the situation by other people making assumptions about "parental alienation by a nasty woman". Sad, and so so predictable.

Hope it never happens to you. from my experience you won't see it coming...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Hope it never happens to you. from my experience you won't see it coming...

The thing is, unless you're talking about yourself (which I doubt you are), all you can be talking about is what someone else has told you about their situation. That they didn't see it coming. And yeah I get that if it's someone close to you, you want to take them at their word, and probably trust them.

Personally? I don't know anyone this has happened to who didn't **** around and find out. Took for granted that their kids would accept poor or low-effort behaviour from them and would still stay in their lives, and then get real sad about it all of a sudden when it turns out not to be the case. OF COURSE they're going to tell other people that they didn't and couldn't possibly have seen it coming.

When people cut out family they invariably have a good reason for doing so. It's really that simple. People don't abandon good family relationships over night on a whim.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

When people cut out family they invariably have a good reason for doing so. It's really that simple. People don't abandon good family relationships over night on a whim.

Hi, my name is Meghan

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Hi, my name is Meghan

Yes we already know you fully believe it happens. Like I said LT it's OK, whatever you need to believe to get you through the evening. They just suddenly turned on their doting dads. It was completely random and unexpected. There is literally no explanation for it . Or I guess there could be one possible explanation: maybe it's all the fault of some other evil woman doing random things with no reason or motivation, just to be cruel to some poor innocent chap.

Imaging actually living in that headspace jfc.

The cognitive leaps people make for self-preservation are truly astounding.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Yes we already know you fully believe it happens. Like I said LT it's OK, whatever you need to believe to get you through the evening. They just suddenly turned on their doting dads. It was completely random and unexpected. There is literally no explanation for it . Or I guess there could be one possible explanation: maybe it's all the fault of some other evil woman doing random things with no reason or motivation, just to be cruel to some poor innocent chap.

Imaging actually living in that headspace jfc.

The cognitive leaps people make for self-preservation are truly astounding.

and her sister and her in laws

see a pattern?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Let's see if they take his name back for the inheritance

Yes .. very short sighted !!

He’s one of the top 3 earners in cinema apparently


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The thing is, unless you're talking about yourself (which I doubt you are), all you can be talking about is what someone else has told you about their situation. That they didn't see it coming. And yeah I get that if it's someone close to you, you want to take them at their word, and probably trust them.

Personally? I don't know anyone this has happened to who didn't **** around and find out. Took for granted that their kids would accept poor or low-effort behaviour from them and would still stay in their lives, and then get real sad about it all of a sudden when it turns out not to be the case. OF COURSE they're going to tell other people that they didn't and couldn't possibly have seen it coming.

When people cut out family they invariably have a good reason for doing so. It's really that simple. People don't abandon good family relationships over night on a whim.

Someone close in my family. We all saw it play out... It was harrowing. Doesn't make me an expert but it shows me it can happen. And you can't really say that people don't abandoned family relations on a whim when I know they sometimes do. Not just their father but their aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes .. very short sighted !!

He’s one of the top 3 earners in cinema apparently


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Hopefully he excludes them all from his inheritance


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and her sister and her in laws

see a pattern?

Yes. Some people are willing to accept poor behaviour from their family out of a misguided sense of duty and family loyalty, and are more sensible and hold the relationships they choose to keep in their lives to a higher standard.

Like I said, some parents seem to believe they're "owed" an ongoing relationship with their kids (and grandkids) and that it's immoral for people to refuse to put up with being insulted and mistreated and cut contact. And they get really huffy when they find out that's not actually true, and that they can rightly be told to **** off. Boo hoo.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Someone close in my family. We all saw it play out...

Unless you lived with them in their house, and were in every room where every conversation took place, no you did not. You heard 2nd hand information from them about how it played out, and chose to believe one side over the other. It cannot possibly be any other way. NO ONE knows the full truth about what has been said or done behind closed doors. Again, you just (understandably) trust the account of events given by the person close to you, and saw the effect it had on them. You don't "know". No one "knows" about other people's relationships. It's purely observational.

Doesn't make me an expert but it shows me it can happen. And you can't really say that people don't abandoned family relations on a whim when I know they sometimes do. Not just their father but their aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents...

They don't abandon close, well maintained family relationships for no reason. They might sometimes abandon relationships with people who (wrongly) assume that family relationships are guaranteed and therefore low-maintenance. Those are the people who are "shocked" when the relationships break down, because they didn't do anything "wrong", while failing to factor in that they also didn't do anything "right". They just assumed all was well.

[AnnieK]

No-one knows what has happened in this case on either side. Brad could have been an arse,Angelina could have poisoned the kids minds. All I know is its very sad when parental / child relationships break down and I hope in time it can be resolved.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

No-one knows what has happened in this case on either side. Brad could have been an arse,Angelina could have poisoned the kids minds. All I know is its very sad when parental / child relationships break down and I hope in time it can be resolved.

Yes that’s my stance on this situation


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

No-one knows what has happened in this case on either side. Brad could have been an arse,Angelina could have poisoned the kids minds. All I know is its very sad when parental / child relationships break down and I hope in time it can be resolved.

TBH we don't even know that the relationship has totally broken down, only that she wants to change her name. She might have a myriad of reasons, she might have talked to Brad Pitt about it, and he might be fine with it. They're a celebrity family... "names" have other considerations and reasonings. Shiloh Jolie is a better name than Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.