[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think ordinarily, your views on this reform nonsense would be spot on, but I think this is a different time. The neoliberal/capitalist destruction of living standards in favour of corporate profits, means people are desperate. Just as we have seen in France with a centrist Macron, doing absolutely nothing to redress societal inequality, leading to the very real prospect of Le Pen, Starmer will follow the Macron path.

We should fear what 2 terms of Starmer inactivity will mean for the electability of extreme right wing politics, in 2029.

I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.

I see Angela Rayner backstabbing him the first time it becomes obvious that the country is losing faith in him


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I see Angela Rayner backstabbing him the first time it becomes obvious that the country is losing faith in him


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I hope that you're wrong on that.

We need a Government in this country that's not trying to oust their leader.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I hope that you're wrong on that.

We need a Government in this country that's not trying to oust their leader.

I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones


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your not understanding how labour chooses it's leader and deputy. Both are chosen by labour party members so Keir has no say in who the deputy is. Also, it's a lot more difficult to oust a labour leader than it is to get rid of a tory one

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones


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House Rayner is being suspected of evil, but will Zizu be proven wrong?

Tune into the next four years of "Life."

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.

No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,

Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is

This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with

You seem to have forgotten that it was the MILLIONS who voted for Boris that put the Tories in power …


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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You seem to have forgotten that it was the MILLIONS who voted for Boris that put the Tories in power …


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What does that have to do with anything? That was 5 years ago, and a lot has happened since then, especially concerning Boris and his bumbling clown act. The public don't buy it any more.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with

I'm still amazed that the Tories got away with David Cameron's awful run with Nick Clegg.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,

I just think that the Tory Media will exaggerate any mistakes that Starmer makes, plus the Tories will pick a much more popular candidate than Sunak next time I think.