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Old 05-07-2024, 03:53 PM #651
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If England had PR

Reform UK would have had 93 MP's

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All that noise for what ??

3 seats

LOL

4 Seats is good.

Some said only Farage would get a seat
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Saw people before the exit poll genuinely celebrating thinking Farage would be the leader of the opposition
He kind of will be.
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Now now Zizu don't poke fun - some overzealous individuals were creaming their boxers last night when they thought Nige was getting 10+ seats and are still very very excited at the prospect of 4 or 5. It's exciting times for UKIP.

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Reform now has 5 MP's


https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1809262665690120249

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Have the chavs yelling over Farage's speech earlier today been discussed in the election thread?
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Yes it's called "Reform" you might have heard of them. AKA also, "The Brexit Party".
I'm talking about UKIP as in the official name, not the unofficial rebrand.
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I think ordinarily, your views on this reform nonsense would be spot on, but I think this is a different time. The neoliberal/capitalist destruction of living standards in favour of corporate profits, means people are desperate. Just as we have seen in France with a centrist Macron, doing absolutely nothing to redress societal inequality, leading to the very real prospect of Le Pen, Starmer will follow the Macron path.

We should fear what 2 terms of Starmer inactivity will mean for the electability of extreme right wing politics, in 2029.
I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.
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I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.

I see Angela Rayner backstabbing him the first time it becomes obvious that the country is losing faith in him


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I hope that you're wrong on that.

We need a Government in this country that's not trying to oust their leader.
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I hope that you're wrong on that.

We need a Government in this country that's not trying to oust their leader.

I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones


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I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones


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your not understanding how labour chooses it's leader and deputy. Both are chosen by labour party members so Keir has no say in who the deputy is. Also, it's a lot more difficult to oust a labour leader than it is to get rid of a tory one
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I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones


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I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.
No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,
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No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,

Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is
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I'm talking about UKIP as in the official name, not the unofficial rebrand.
Well UKIP was the UK Independence Party which was about leaving the UK to keep the immigrants away.

Then we had the EU vote

So they became the "Brexit Party" which was about "getting Brexit donnneee" to keep the immigrants away.

Then Brexit got done

So they became Reform which was supposedly about "Normal Working Brits". But we all know it's actually 'cos they don't think the UK govt is doing a good enough job with those pesky immigrants.

The name's only changed because it had to.
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Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is
This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with
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Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is
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This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with

You seem to have forgotten that it was the MILLIONS who voted for Boris that put the Tories in power …


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What does that have to do with anything? That was 5 years ago, and a lot has happened since then, especially concerning Boris and his bumbling clown act. The public don't buy it any more.
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What does Reform need to overtake the Tories? Fewer than 340k voters

Nigel Farage’s party may only have five MPs to its name but, for them, this is only the beginning



Nigel Farage’s plan to be prime minister in five years’ time may seem far-
fetched, but it would take fewer than 340,000 voters to switch to Reform UK for
the party to overtake the Tories and become the official opposition, a Telegraph
analysis shows.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...eral-election/
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No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,
I just think that the Tory Media will exaggerate any mistakes that Starmer makes, plus the Tories will pick a much more popular candidate than Sunak next time I think.
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This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with
I'm still amazed that the Tories got away with David Cameron's awful run with Nick Clegg.
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The worst thing is...

We've got 14 years of that **** again.
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