[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Alf

That means nothing. We didn't have De Bruyne or Haaland in our team. They're the big players for the teams you're talking about.

A great team will beat a team of great individuals and this Spain team have been the greatest team in this tournament.

You've made my point for me by saying 'team. Southgate doesnt put his team in a position to win. Hence why they;ve gone behind in all the knockout stage games and had to force the game. HE then relies on players to create a moment and they did but its not sustainable and its not putting the team in a position to win. IMO that the managers basic job and GS doesn't do it.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You've made my point for me by saying 'team. Southgate doesnt put his team in a position to win. Hence why they;ve gone behind in all the knockout stage games and had to force the game. HE then relies on players to create a moment and they did but its not sustainable and its not putting the team in a position to win. IMO that the managers basic job and GS doesn't do it.

Pep Guardiola has never reached an international final. Come back when he's able to.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Alf

Pep Guardiola has never reached an international final. Come back when he's able to.

Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney etc would do better. The team doesnt need Pep, it just needs a manager who's tactics are not from another decade.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney etc would do better. The team doesnt need Pep, it just needs a manager who's tactics are not from another decade.

They could get Barcelona’s reserve team coach and things would improve almond immediately

Look at Spain’s coach .. who is he ?


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney etc would do better. The team doesnt need Pep, it just needs a manager who's tactics are not from another decade.

That's a joke right?

Rooney relegated a team that was fighting for the playoffs until he tookover as Manager.

Plus he has relegated three Championship clubs (I'm already including Plymouth as victims of Rooney's Management,) Southgate would never do that bad.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's a joke right?

Rooney relegated a team that was fighting for the playoffs until he tookover as Manager.

Plus he has relegated three Championship clubs (I'm already including Plymouth as victims of Rooney's Management,) Southgate would never do that bad.

He achieved diddly squat squared as a club manager despite Boro lashing out millions


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He achieved diddly squat squared as a club manager despite Boro lashing out millions


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Southgate still did better with Boro (which was his first job as Manager) than what Rooney did with 6th Place (at the time of his hiring) Birmingham City (which was his third job as Manager.)

As someone that watched Blues play Football under Rooney, yes it was more entertaining to watch than Southgate's run as England Manager (because it basically was like Football meets NBA) but his tactics were non-existent, that's why I don't agree with you and Girth on that one.

Plus controversially, ever since I was getting into Football, Blues are just a more entertaining team to watch than the England National Team, and Southgate weren't the Manager back then.

England are just a boring team to watch for some reason.