[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not hysterical. We all have our opinions.

Honestly you just been spouting out crap from the internet

Surprised you have not said he should be hung in the street

[user104658]

It's becoming a bigger and bigger problem I think. What happened is absolutely horrific no matter what, but the rioting makes absolutely no sense. Just aimless, mindless destruction... and it seems to be happening more and more, with every big news story. No matter what it is, swathes of people will use it as an excuse to take to the streets for some civil unrest. It's not really about what has happened. It's just a symptom of a much wider problem currently at play in the western world.

When stories as tragic as this one are the excuse and get completely swept aside in the wake of random destruction, it becomes especially sad.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Honestly I see Vanessa in this thread as an hysterical woman

Reading crap written on other platforms and coming into this thread and just screaming out statements

Me every time Alf posts on any thread.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Honestly you just been spouting out crap from the internet

Surprised you have not said he should be hung in the street

I'm not changing my opinions just because you don't like it.
I've never said that. I said jail for life.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's becoming a bigger and bigger problem I think. What happened is absolutely horrific no matter what, but the rioting makes absolutely no sense. Just aimless, mindless destruction... and it seems to be happening more and more, with every big news story. No matter what it is, swathes of people will use it as an excuse to take to the streets for some civil unrest. It's not really about what has happened. It's just a symptom of a much wider problem currently at play in the western world.

When stories as tragic as this one are the excuse and get completely swept aside in the wake of random destruction, it becomes especially sad.

We can all agree on this. It's a worrying trend. And they all stood watching while the gangs were in Southend last night. Horrific.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the police are always granted more time to hold prisoners without charge in cases like this so, there is no point trying to imply that it is unusual.

It's the same police force under labour as it was under the tories. Again, what difference is a government going to make in a month.

People are being manipulated right now by hostile forces whether that be internal, external or both. They are being led like a trained puppy by being fed stories deliberately designed to spark outrage and racial conflict

People really need to stop reading social media, because it is trash

To be fair.. after a mass slaughter of innocent young children I would expect the default time allowed for questioning to be AS LONG AS IT TAKES …


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[arista]

Police Chief now live SkyNewsHD

She will have Police there tonight


Many thugs were arrested.

54 Officers Injured


She told Martin Brunt
they were not surprised by last night?


But he met another lady who showed him a message
on her phone, yesterday
"It said 8PM Tonight
Be there
It could be your kids next"

Of course, the thugs kicked down small walls
in gardens then chucked bricks at the Police.

And they over powered the Police
getting to a Police van
setting it on fire...................

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zizu

To be fair.. after a mass slaughter of innocent young children I would expect the default time allowed for questioning to be AS LONG AS IT TAKES …


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Lock him up and throw away the key.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not changing my opinions just because you don't like it.
I've never said that. I said jail for life.

Truth is you are just like so many others actually spreading misinformation

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Surprised you have not said he should be hung in the street

Actually that was my third preference


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's becoming a bigger and bigger problem I think. What happened is absolutely horrific no matter what, but the rioting makes absolutely no sense. Just aimless, mindless destruction... and it seems to be happening more and more, with every big news story. No matter what it is, swathes of people will use it as an excuse to take to the streets for some civil unrest. It's not really about what has happened. It's just a symptom of a much wider problem currently at play in the western world.

When stories as tragic as this one are the excuse and get completely swept aside in the wake of random destruction, it becomes especially sad.

…I mean, the main escalator and carrier of misinformation is social media, isn’t it…but that would seem difficult…(…if not, impossible..)…to regulate enough to be able to prevent the incitement it seems to…things don’t seem to have to have any truth at all to take flight and travel with a lightening speed…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Lock him up and throw away the key.

Well you are more forgiving than I .. young lady


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[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Truth is you are just like so many others actually spreading misinformation

We don't know the identify of who did it. But the rest is well known. It's all over the news.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We can all agree on this. It's a worrying trend. And they all stood watching while the gangs were in Southend last night. Horrific.

…’they’ do you mean the police officers, Vanessa…?…I believe all were arrested and all of the weapons were seized so there was no standing around and doing nothing…on the TV news last night, what I saw…(…and because there was an obvious danger to the public situation…)…was the police keeping the area clear and safe and staying that safe distance themselves, while they did that…but it all resulted in those arrests and that taking of all the weapons…

[Ammi]

…anyway, I’m not going to deviate anymore in this thread to the Southend incident…

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well you are more forgiving than I .. young lady


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We have a justice system not a mob on the streets handing out their own justice

What do you think would happen to you and your family if society breaks down completely

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…’they’ do you mean the police officers, Vanessa…?…I believe all were arrested and all of the weapons were seized so there was no standing around and doing nothing…on the TV news last night, what I saw…(…and because there was an obvious danger to the public situation…)…was the police keeping the area clear and safe and staying that safe distance themselves, while they did that…but it all resulted in those arrests and that taking of all the weapons…

From what I saw they were not police officers. They came afterwards and made arrests.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We don't know the identify of who did it. But the rest is well known. It's all over the news.

Just stop and listen to yourself

They are not going to be blackmailed into giving you and others alike information that’s part of a criminal investigation

You were on here last post nonsense about his family and the father being protected and the father not being a nice person

Just random bollox you read on other platforms

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I mean, the main escalator and carrier of misinformation is social media, isn’t it…but that would seem difficult…(…if not, impossible..)…to regulate enough to be able to prevent the incitement it seems to…things don’t seem to have to have any truth at all to take flight and travel with a lightening speed…

I agree that Social Media in this case is the tool that makes these very quick mass gatherings possible, and "SoMed mindset" is absolutely a part of the equation of what's going on with people, but I don't think it can be the whole story. We've had Social Media for more than 15 years at this point, and it's been very mainstream for at least 10... but the "riot for every story" trend seems to be massively increasing in pace in recent years. Probably since Covid-times. I think Covid regulations, and lockdown, perhaps had a marked and permanent effect on social psych in the west in some ways.

Lots of factors coming together but it's a scary trend. I don't imagine it's going to get better before it gets much worse.

[user104658]

I would add, that it's now on my rapidly growing list of "reasons I'm glad I don't live in or near a large town or city".

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

Police Chief now live SkyNewsHD

She will have Police there tonight


Many thugs were arrested.

54 Officers Injured


She told Martin Brunt
they were not surprised by last night?


But he met another lady who showed him a message
on her phone, yesterday
"It said 8PM Tonight
Be there
It could be your kids next"

Of course, the thugs kicked down small walls
in gardens then chucked bricks at the Police.

And they over powered the Police
getting to a Police van
setting it on fire...................

I added more to this post

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I agree that Social Media in this case is the tool that makes these very quick mass gatherings possible, and "SoMed mindset" is absolutely a part of the equation of what's going on with people, but I don't think it can be the whole story. We've had Social Media for more than 15 years at this point, and it's been very mainstream for at least 10... but the "riot for every story" trend seems to be massively increasing in pace in recent years. Probably since Covid-times. I think Covid regulations, and lockdown, perhaps had a marked and permanent effect on social psych in the west in some ways.

Lots of factors coming together but it's a scary trend. I don't imagine it's going to get better before it gets much worse.

…well, more and more …(…and as you say, COVID times were a big factor…)…the movie playing out on the world stage has been of greater civil unrest and I think the starring role in that is social media …because it’s all being stoked and prodded and the flames fanned by many governments and establishments and all of those ments who like to keep the distraction of a divisive society…it’s a very layered thing, though…because no matter what fake news is posted on social media and by who…?…the reader will believe it because they want to…

[Beso]

Whoever wrote that txt is correct, it could indeed be your kids next...until this government does something about it, then that threat is alive and well. Which leads me to this unrest being aimed at the government and law enforcement, and not so much the muslims.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Presumably trying to clarify the motive

Or maybe they'll release him

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Apparently the people responsible for Southport awful events are the same ones who committed the Rwanda genocide.
We have housed them here in the UK!
The deal was to send them back, but since the Rwanda immigration plan was scrapped they're still here.
If this is true the PM is responsible for this.

So Rwanda’s suffering as well as the UK. What exactly is your point?