[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

If you want some real irony - I'm actually passingly decent at throwing a few darts and my older sister's been in a mixed pub league since she was 20 (so over 20 years)

They don't have walk on girls though

Yeah, see that's my issue with it. It must feel a bit **** for your sister to be trying to be taken seriously as a female player while watching the only women on "the big stage" being paraded around the men like decorations

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, see that's my issue with it. It must feel a bit **** for your sister to be trying to be taken seriously as a female player while watching the only women on "the big stage" being paraded around the men like decorations

What do you mean, the only women on the big stage.?

I could name about 5 top flight female darts players who can mix it with the men, and have done for about 5 years now.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Beso

What do you mean, the only women on the big stage.?



I could name about 5 top flight female darts players who can mix it with the men, and have done for about 5 years now.

That's still very few tbf Parm. I just don't like it in general in sports when women are already mocked and looked down on.. Again, not specifically with Darts, just generally

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, see that's my issue with it. It must feel a bit **** for your sister to be trying to be taken seriously as a female player while watching the only women on "the big stage" being paraded around the men like decorations

Thats not true though, womens darts is very popular and they are televised and women have been playing with men for years now Fallon Sherrock is probably the stand out but there are more up and coming

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thats not true though, womens darts is very popular and they are televised and women have been playing with men for years now Fallon Sherrock is probably the stand out but there are more up and coming

It's popular ish. I stand by my point that walk on girls do female players a dis service in being taken seriously, as do ring girls in UFC. Agree with me or disagree, your choice but I firmly believe that to be true regardless

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's popular ish. I stand by my point that walk on girls do female players a dis service in being taken seriously, as do ring girls in UFC. Agree with me or disagree, your choice but I firmly believe that to be true regardless

I agree. But I don't think every man who likes to see the walk on girls is a perverted, beer-swilling wife beater as has been suggested on this thread.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree. But I don't think every man who likes to see the walk on girls is a perverted, beer-swilling wife beater as has been suggested on this thread.

add white to that.... gammon only refers to white men we all know that

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

add white to that.... gammon only refers to white men we all know that

Oh yes... Gammon. One of the permitted racist slurs.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree. But I don't think every man who likes to see the walk on girls is a perverted, beer-swilling wife beater as has been suggested on this thread.

I'm not even going down that road, for me it's definitely about sports and how it really doesn't help female sports in general. It just gives more leverage to those with the opinion that women in sport don't belong unless they're there for men's amusement

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not even going down that road, for me it's definitely about sports and how it really doesn't help female sports in general. It just gives more leverage to those with the opinion that women in sport don't belong unless they're there for men's amusement

I do agree... But I think it might be an overreaction to say it cheapens women in sport. A womens rugby team was recently required to be photographed in lingerie to raise some money for the club. I thought that was far more sexist than getting someone whose only legally chargeable skill is walking in front of some darts players.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I do agree... But I think it might be an overreaction to say it cheapens women in sport. A womens rugby team was recently required to be photographed in lingerie to raise some money for the club. I thought that was far more sexist than getting someone whose only legally chargeable skill is walking in front of some darts players.

Oh yeah I saw that. Awful

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

I do agree... But I think it might be an overreaction to say it cheapens women in sport. A womens rugby team was recently required to be photographed in lingerie to raise some money for the club. I thought that was far more sexist than getting someone whose only legally chargeable skill is walking in front of some darts players.

If this is the GB rugby squad, it was to highlight something, and not to raise money for the squad.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

I do agree... But I think it might be an overreaction to say it cheapens women in sport. A womens rugby team was recently required to be photographed in lingerie to raise some money for the club. I thought that was far more sexist than getting someone whose only legally chargeable skill is walking in front of some darts players.

Was the entire women's Rugby team obliged to do that? If so then that's bad, because some of them will have been coerced into doing it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's popular ish. I stand by my point that walk on girls do female players a dis service in being taken seriously, as do ring girls in UFC. Agree with me or disagree, your choice but I firmly believe that to be true regardless

But you could say the same for cheerleaders or dancers for a artist, each to their own, if they are happy doing it, I dont think people look at these women and compare them to women in sport at least I dont, they are separate entities

Even without the walk on girls there are still pom pom girls on the stage dancing as the darts players walk on these are trained dancers who are being paid to do what they love I guess

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

But you could say the same for cheerleaders or dancers for a artist, each to their own, if they are happy doing it, I dont think people look at these women and compare them to women in sport at least I dont, they are separate entities

Even without the walk on girls there are still pom pom girls on the stage dancing as the darts players walk on these are trained dancers who are being paid to do what they love I guess

Geez, just have a read off comments on YouTube or Twitter to see that isn't true.

Cheerleaders are dancers and pretty athletic and also have men on their squads a lot of times. So at least they're doing more than just lookimg nice.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Geez, just have a read off comments on YouTube or Twitter to see that isn't true.

Cheerleaders are dancers and pretty athletic and also have men on their squads a lot of times. So at least they're doing more than just lookimg nice.

I dont read comments people love to be nasty on social media just because they can, after seeing what can happen to women i.e Afghanistan I more than welcome women being able to do whatever they want given it is with their own free will, fashion models are only hired if the look nice and that goes for both men and women, you wont see too many adverts with people with facial disfigurements unless it is to raise awareness or something, personally I think the walk on girls are being brought back to promote betting rather than anything else

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I dont read comments people love to be nasty on social media just because they can, after seeing what can happen to women i.e Afghanistan I more than welcome women being able to do whatever they want given it is with their own free will, fashion models are only hired if the look nice and that goes for both men and women, you wont see too many adverts with people with facial disfigurements unless it is to raise awareness or something, personally I think the walk on girls are being brought back to promote betting rather than anything else

Whether women want to be hired for that job or not wasn't really the point I was arguing here though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, see that's my issue with it. It must feel a bit **** for your sister to be trying to be taken seriously as a female player while watching the only women on "the big stage" being paraded around the men like decorations

The one slippery slope that could happen (but I don't believe that it will) is if the Senior Darts has a popular reaction to the Walk On Girls, then the Sport might try to make it's female competitors also dress up in a more sexy manner to draw in an audience that doesn't really care about the game, and against the wishes of a lot of the female Darts players.