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Originally Posted by HettyLip

Her position on climate change/global warmins is well presented. and sound.
What do you think caused last year;s UK heatwave and this years abundance of rain. What about the devastation and death toll caused by Hurrican Milton, what about rampaging wildfires all over the world and entire cimmunities
being flooded = remember New Orleans.?
If we continue to treat the planet with such irresponsible disdain, do not be surprised if the stupidity of so many precipitates a mass extinction event.
Sooner rather than later.

This is a big debate and far deeper than simplistic crusading doomsdayers like Daze acknowledge.

As a start though, in the spirit of finding common ground, I 100% agree we badly need a cleaner and kinder approach to the world that we live in.

I will also agree that the climate is changing.

But, no, I don't think that every natural disaster can be viewed as being the result of climate change and I think that the human element in that change is grossly misunderstood by most and over-exaggerated others.

As for her view on astroturf organisations such as Just Stop Oil and their divisive stunts... Well, I believe that they serve no positive purpose and actually turn more on-the-fence types against their claimed cause. Kind of like the actual harm Suffragettes did for the suffrage movement wth their extremist stunts.

Daze doesn't reach out to others in the spirit of communication.. She lectures and berates and relies on them knowing even less than she does or just not being willing to get into it with her. She makes forceful broad generalised claims but if you break them down there is nothing of substance there.

But, honestly, there is nothing 'well formed' in her views, not to someone actually aware of more than one side of the debate.