[Swan]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

If Ali was a man and acted the way she did last night, she would be hated by the very people who are so called supporting her to the death.

Khaled has the patience of a saint. 99.9% of people wouldn't have been as calm as he was.

If i had someone like Ali work in the same place with me, i would steer clear from her, because just the very presence of me would set her off.

Someone on X said it all,

"Ali, could you please pass the salt?"

"OK, listen, i know what you are trying to do, you are trying to vilify me in a way in front of the cameras which will be detrimental to my job. I am done with this conversation".

Yeah this is absolutely spot on. She has real deep seeded hate for Khalid and you really have to question yourself why?

Like when Ali and Dean had a decision to make regarding the save and replace. Khalid wasn't even angry, he was calm and said to her when they were alone, in a nice way i might add - "it's hard isn't it" (as he had the same decision to make the week previous) and she flew off the handle at him, making HERSELF the victim yet again. He was was merely pointing out what a difficult process it all is, and that as she'd been through it now she would be able to empathise with him. But nah, Ali saw it as an opportunity to have yet another pop at the guy.

People wont have this i know, but imagine if Ryan had taken this instant dislike to Khalid early on for no apparent reason. If Ryan was displaying this irrational hatred of Khalid? Well, some of the same people supporting Ali now would be absolutely accusing Ryan of Islamphobia. It's like because Ali is and gay and supports trans rights (she knew what she was doing by wearing that t-shirt) she couldn't possibly be against Khalid because he's a practising Muslim and man of colour.

In any case, Ali was lapping up the sympathy yesterday, all this is playing right into her game plan. And it's working. In her head though, she's loving this outcome. Im genuinely surprised so many are falling for it.

[rusticgal]

Ali has aligned herself with the weakest people in there...the ones she knows she can control and manipulate.
She sounds like she knows what she is talking about but she completely contradicts her own behaviour most of the time. She has told a few of them that Dean was the instigator of those decisions but left her to take the flak...then Dean comes over and asks her if she is ok and she doesn't say a word to him about it. She knows she has Dean where she wants him atm (he is weak, all mouth and no trousers)...unyet she has pretty much slagged him off behind his back...and she calls Khalid FAKE.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ali has aligned herself with the weakest people in there...the ones she knows she can control and manipulate.
She sounds like she knows what she is talking about but she completely contradicts her own behaviour most of the time. She has told a few of them that Dean was the instigator of those decisions but left her to take the flak...then Dean comes over and asks her if she is ok and she doesn't say a word to him about it. She knows she has Dean where she wants him atm (he is weak, all mouth and no trousers)...unyet she has pretty much slagged him off behind his back...and she calls Khalid FAKE.

Exactly. That was more fake than anything Khaled has ever done

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah this is absolutely spot on. She has real deep seeded hate for Khalid and you really have to question yourself why?

Like when Ali and Dean had a decision to make regarding the save and replace. Khalid wasn't even angry, he was calm and said to her when they were alone, in a nice way i might add - "it's hard isn't it" (as he had the same decision to make the week previous) and she flew off the handle at him, making HERSELF the victim yet again. He was was merely pointing out what a difficult process it all is, and that as she'd been through it now she would be able to empathise with him. But nah, Ali saw it as an opportunity to have yet another pop at the guy.

People wont have this i know, but imagine if Ryan had taken this instant dislike to Khalid early on for no apparent reason. If Ryan was displaying this irrational hatred of Khalid? Well, some of the same people supporting Ali now would be absolutely accusing Ryan of Islamphobia. It's like because Ali is and gay and supports trans rights (she knew what she was doing by wearing that t-shirt) she couldn't possibly be against Khalid because he's a practising Muslim and man of colour.

In any case, Ali was lapping up the sympathy yesterday, all this is playing right into her game plan. And it's working. In her head though, she's loving this outcome. Im genuinely surprised so many are falling for it.

Good post...I hope Khalid doesn't make any more attempts to make amends because she will just turn on him again...he should let it it go now. .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah this is absolutely spot on. She has real deep seeded hate for Khalid and you really have to question yourself why?

Like when Ali and Dean had a decision to make regarding the save and replace. Khalid wasn't even angry, he was calm and said to her when they were alone, in a nice way i might add - "it's hard isn't it" (as he had the same decision to make the week previous) and she flew off the handle at him, making HERSELF the victim yet again. He was was merely pointing out what a difficult process it all is, and that as she'd been through it now she would be able to empathise with him. But nah, Ali saw it as an opportunity to have yet another pop at the guy.

People wont have this i know, but imagine if Ryan had taken this instant dislike to Khalid early on for no apparent reason. If Ryan was displaying this irrational hatred of Khalid? Well, some of the same people supporting Ali now would be absolutely accusing Ryan of Islamphobia. It's like because Ali is and gay and supports trans rights (she knew what she was doing by wearing that t-shirt) she couldn't possibly be against Khalid because he's a practising Muslim and man of colour.

In any case, Ali was lapping up the sympathy yesterday, all this is playing right into her game plan. And it's working. In her head though, she's loving this outcome. Im genuinely surprised so many are falling for it.

Outside the house , especially on L& L a few audience members seem to be finally seeing what a bitch Ali is . It got tiresome how L& L kept acting as if the sun shined out her backside. That Harriet guest ( no idea who she is) , is always defending Ali as she clearly has a bias.. .

I agree about parts of what you're saying re: if this was Ryan against Khaled,we all know how quickly things would go down a certain ugly narrative to paint Ryan as the villain.

Hanah rightly pointed out that Ali is getting sympathy,whereas Khaled was left to hang out and dry basically, more people in the house are pandering to Ali's feelings , whereas Khaled was pushed aside,whilst whispers of him being " fake " was said behind his back.

Ali is a very cold cruel game player, and she definitely is capitalising on the whole ' Red witch drama' now, she can't let it drop . She probably thinks she'll get her own feminist podcast titled ' Red witch hour ' or something, if she was chocolate she would eat herself... she's that self absorbed.