[Mystic Mock]

In the chat with Ali about Martha in the Garden, Nathan starts ripping apart Martha's dress sense.

And look, I get he doesn't like her and he can say whatever he likes etc etc.

But I do think that Nathan went personal imo in that chat with Ali, there's not liking someone/gameplaying etc, and then there's ripping into someone's appearance, which people's fashion choices are apart of how they appear to everyone else.

I'm probably not explaining it very well, but it just didn't sit right with me.

What did you guys think?

[Niamh.]

I'm not a fan of her but his dislike of her is a bit OTT, she's not evil or anything

[vesavius]

Nathan is coming across as a bit of a generally annoying prick, tbh.

[ebandit]

..................exactly! nathan is a complete twat...................so don't be surprised

Mark L

[Liam-]

He’s awful and definitely the only person I’ve seen be actually nasty in there

[Crimson Dynamo]

I do find him going on about Martha a bit odd but it could be the edit

ie they all go on about each other but BB are being manipulative to just show Nathan

[Cherie]

He seems to have a particular hatred towards her, he has been in the DR twice now moaning

[Jase.]

He's ****ing rancid and this random hatred he has for Martha is bordering on psychotic.

[rusticgal]

I think he is obsessed with her being fake...I do agree with him but attacking her dress sense is a bit unnecessary.

[Ray.]

It was so awkward when she was complimenting him during that game last night on the sofas, and he just stared at her with this squinty look of disgust and suspicion.

[smudgie]

He is awful.
Fake and nasty with it.
No reason for his hatred of Martha, or anybody else for that matter.

[Maru]

Everything he was saying seemed more like a Nathan issue.

[caprimint]

He became so arrogant after that first eviction that he survived and ever since he started flirting with Rosie

Idk why/how he's still popular tbh

[GoldGlitter]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I do find him going on about Martha a bit odd but it could be the edit

ie they all go on about each other but BB are being manipulative to just show Nathan

It's not the edit. He went on about her for hours the other night on live.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nathan is coming across as a bit of a generally annoying prick, tbh.

Yeah he's getting more and more bitchy , he's like a villain in a panto.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by caprimint

He became so arrogant after that first eviction that he survived and ever since he started flirting with Rosie

Idk why/how he's still popular tbh

Him & BP's romance is about as real as a chocolate coin.

[Beso]

I kind of hate her as much as he does so I can give him a pass this time.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

In the chat with Ali about Martha in the Garden, Nathan starts ripping apart Martha's dress sense.

And look, I get he doesn't like her and he can say whatever he likes etc etc.

But I do think that Nathan went personal imo in that chat with Ali, there's not liking someone/gameplaying etc, and then there's ripping into someone's appearance, which people's fashion choices are apart of how they appear to everyone else.

I'm probably not explaining it very well, but it just didn't sit right with me.

What did you guys think?

You've made valid points there.

I think he was rather over the top.
I haven't any real opinion of Martha myself but it wasn't nice some of the things he threw about as to her.

[bots]

There have been several times i've seen in the last week where Martha has been picked on directly by other hm's. It's a small house, she knows whats going on and her paranoia will be going through the roof.. It's the same with lily, she may be a slob, but people are constantly talking about her behind her back. That really screws with your mental health whether you deserve it or not. I tend to give people subjected to that a lot of leeway, because i know i sure wouldn't like it. Some may call it actual bullying

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

In the chat with Ali about Martha in the Garden, Nathan starts ripping apart Martha's dress sense.

And look, I get he doesn't like her and he can say whatever he likes etc etc.

But I do think that Nathan went personal imo in that chat with Ali, there's not liking someone/gameplaying etc, and then there's ripping into someone's appearance, which people's fashion choices are apart of how they appear to everyone else.

I'm probably not explaining it very well, but it just didn't sit right with me.

What did you guys think?

Yeah he kept going on about her fashion sense , he bashed her animal sweater or something...and she said it's her own pet on the jumper or something.

I think he was trying to make out ... he's not into cute lovey dovey outfits . But yeah afterwards in the garden...he was having a proper old bitch , even Ali didn't seem to know what to say .

Be interesting to see how Ali plays this now . As both her & Martha were a little bitchy together about BP . But
Ali didn't bother defending Martha...she just stayed non committal more or less .

[Abra]

The ironic thing is he is so convinced that Martha is fake but he's the one being totally fake because he's not saying any of this to her face.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nathan is coming across as a bit of a generally annoying prick, tbh.

He is.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Abra

The ironic thing is he is so convinced that Martha is fake but he's the one being totally fake because he's not saying any of this to her face.

Perhaps like the gentleman he is, he just simply doesnt want to upset her.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nathan is coming across as a bit of a generally annoying prick, tbh.

And he has been since the last 10 days or so. His fake relationship with Baked fools no-one.

His dislike for Marha is based on the clothes she wears. He doesn't like them.

He generally makes snide comments about mostly everyone and deep down he is a total plank.

I was hoping he'd get evicted last Friday but it seems he is still fooling people into believing he's a nice guy.

[Maru]

Quite a few of the HMs have been a disappointment. This year's are unusually OTT bitchy and care way too much about cameras and appearances... it has been entertaining, but like with Nathan, sometimes it's just very awkward. So many of them up their own arse.