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Old 27-10-2024, 12:02 PM #1
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Taking or talking , I struggle to understand what on earth she is saying so I have no idea if she is an intelligent or even interesting individual


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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.
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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.

Bollox

I have no problem at all with ANY of the other housemate’s diction


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I have no problem at all with ANY of the other housemate’s diction
No, I agree. You only have a problem with her specific one.
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…to be fair to Zizu, not always understanding accents, expressions and an individual way of speaking etc is something that’s often been something that some have difficulty with….hmmmm, I’m not sure if Paul last year had comments about not understanding his Liverpool accent, I think he might have and I know the Geordie accent once with Jay McKray was one that was commented on at the time…and also Alex Rose I think was another…?…I’m thinking there may have been a housemate who was sometimes subtitled as well…maybe that was through live feed, though…I can’t recall exactly…anyway, I don’t think that there is anything deeper than Zizu just not being able to follow and understand something…
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…to be fair to Zizu, not always understanding accents, expressions and an individual way of speaking etc is something that’s often been something that some have difficulty with….hmmmm, I’m not sure if Paul last year had comments about not understanding his Liverpool accent, I think he might have and I know the Geordie accent once with Jay McKray was one that was commented on at the time…and also Alex Rose I think was another…?…I’m thinking there may have been a housemate who was sometimes subtitled as well…maybe that was through live feed, though…I can’t recall exactly…anyway, I don’t think that there is anything deeper than Zizu just not being able to follow and understand something…

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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.
Wonder if the same people took issue with Aisleyne BB7's accent ? . Remember her famous quote to Nikki " know yourself little girl " lol.
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Hope Hanah wins to be honest. I love how passionate she is for her friends and also that if she has problems with someone she will normally speak to them about it (not Ali, as BB didn’t really give her the chance) - for example the way she has supported Lily without patronising her.

Plus, she sees right through Ali and that is only a positive in my book
What do you mean BB didn't give her chance? They have had loads of time to talk in there but both have decided to just get on with it

I think your last point is interesting as I think the dislike for Ali is so strong that Hannah is automatically liked

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This is my thoughts.

I find it degrading towards women. We have come so far on this front. It's not Westernised to have a different view. Equality is a big thing and this pisses all over. As a country we're suppose to be diverse though. She has her opinion I don't agree with it at all.
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What do you mean BB didn't give her chance? They have had loads of time to talk in there but both have decided to just get on with it

I think your last point is interesting as I think the dislike for Ali is so strong that Hannah is automatically liked






Yeah people can become a bit silly



She didn't say that exactly, but I take your point



This is my thoughts.

I find it degrading towards women. We have come so far on this front. It's not Westernised to have a different view. Equality is a big thing and this pisses all over. As a country we're suppose to be diverse though. She has her opinion I don't agree with it at all.
I meant that Hanah had the conversation with the boys about Ali but then just a few hours later BB gathered them together and aired it, so it wasn’t that she didn’t say to Ali how she felt but more BB aired it before she did. You only have to look at her interactions in the house to know that she would have at some point.

I do think she could have handled what happened after, better though!
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When Hanah told us about her religion and having to be subservient to their husbands....I'm starting to think Hanah might struggle with this..
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I meant that Hanah had the conversation with the boys about Ali but then just a few hours later BB gathered them together and aired it, so it wasn’t that she didn’t say to Ali how she felt but more BB aired it before she did. You only have to look at her interactions in the house to know that she would have at some point.

I do think she could have handled what happened after, better though!
I don't know if she would have told her tbh. We will never know.

For me, if you need to raise your voice and start swearing then you've lost the argument/debate already.
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I don't know if she would have told her tbh. We will never know.

For me, if you need to raise your voice and start swearing then you've lost the argument/debate already.
For me, it’s about what is being actually said rather than how it’s delivered. There are a certain type of people who don’t seem to be allowed to make mistakes and aren’t given any grace at all (I don’t mean by you, but in general).
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I don't know if she would have told her tbh. We will never know.

For me, if you need to raise your voice and start swearing then you've lost the argument/debate already.
That's not how an argument/debate is meant to be judged, but granted most people do make your mistake tbf.

In my view it should always be who's points that you agree with is the winner of the discussion.
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As a country we're suppose to be diverse though. She has her opinion I don't agree with it at all.
says who?

We have come a long way as a country and importing millions of people who have not come a long way is both dangerous and backward
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We have come a long way as a country and importing millions of people who have not come a long way is both dangerous and backward
There's not one set person.

But generally speaking.

It CAN be dangerous. Depends on the view expressed, but part of British values is the ability to accept others from diverse backgrounds.
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I have to say, i don't like her tone and attitude at all. No idea why Martha was so keep to make up with her. I wouldn't have bothered. She's horrible.
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I have to say, i don't like her tone and attitude at all. No idea why Martha was so keep to make up with her. I wouldn't have bothered. She's horrible.
Because Martha is the type to assassinate you behind your back to her crowd and then apologise to you in private.

It's her trying to play both sides.
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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.
She's a little tricky to understand at first.

But I put that down to her having a poor enunciation imo.

Because there's all sorts of different accents in the house, and Hanah's is the only one that I've personally had any issues with.

Although I do feel like you do pick it up as you go along with Hanah, as I'm a lot better at understanding her now compared to week 1.
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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.
I had issues understanding her nearer to the beginning but it got better overtime. I think I have adjusted to her speech patterns, which I am definitely not familiar with. Obviously I am out of the country so I wouldn't even think working class... it sounds closer to an adopted dialect in the US mixed in with another accent (maybe regional) but I couldn't tell you. I am accustomed to differences in accents but hers seems to have more than 1.
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I had issues understanding her nearer to the beginning but it got better overtime. I think I have adjusted to her speech patterns, which I am definitely not familiar with. Obviously I am out of the country so I wouldn't even think working class... it sounds closer to an adopted dialect in the US mixed in with another accent (maybe regional) but I couldn't tell you. I am accustomed to differences in accents but hers seems to have more than 1.
Working class accents are regional for sure but the way Hanah speaks is def a working class London accent.

It's def a mix though, but that just reflects the cultural change of London via mass immigration and the like.
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Working class accents are regional for sure but the way Hanah speaks is def a working class London accent.

It's def a mix though, but that just reflects the cultural change of London via mass immigration and the like.
I have no issues understanding Hanah whatsoever because I went to school and grew up around hundreds of people like her.

That's your typical Somali-London accent. She uses A LOT of slang though. Somali Londoners have a very obvious accent. If they talk fast and use heavy slang they can be pretty hard to understand to the untrained ear.

I think she tries to be eloquent but her "ghetto" side comes out and she doesn't properly enunciate.
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Oh I know, she'd be called aggressive
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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.

It’s her problem not mine ..

I don’t appreciate the subtle suggestion of racism either .. If you remember last series I was Trish’s biggest fan .. right to the end and beyond


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