[vesavius]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Because the dislike against Ali from many is relentless, and unforgiving based on individual interpretation and It just comes across vindictive... I personally find that negative and cruel and don't mind saying it.

Just because you fail to see the truth in Ali's actions there is no need to try and label others in such extreme ways that do.

I forgive when change is made and forgiveness is earned. Ali continues to be a cynical self-serving manipulator.

Anyhow, I consider attacking other forum members and making personal comments to be petty and cheap so I won't fall into that trap here and have a personal slanging match with you. I don't think that proves or changes anything to do with Ali. I am here to the best that I can just to debate HMs and their actions, not try and make moral judgements on others in the forum for having different takes.