[Redway]

It goes without saying that anyone of any sexuality can be any sort of person and usually are frequently enough but at the same time it can hard to see someone’s radar as exclusively honed in on the opposite sex when they have certain suggestive mannerisms, and I do see them with Segun, with that slight-but-definite element of camp to half of what he says or does. I’m afraid this is gonna have to be another one of Redway’s polls but seriously, I’m just curious to hear what people think.

[Ray.]

Other than a lisp, I haven't noticed any stereotypical signifiers of homosexuality?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Other than a lisp, I haven't noticed any stereotypical signifiers of homosexuality?

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

Exactly. The thread is in kind of poor taste

[Ammi]

…I don’t understand but camp is more an exaggerated’ personality, surely…and I don’t see that in Segun…I honestly don’t have any thoughts whatsoever about anyone’s sexuality or any questioning of anything so personal…

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

[vesavius]

I don't understand the speculation here at all.

This constant challenging of a person's stated sexuality is a bit weird... Why not just accept what a person says they are? Can you imagine if I was questioning if the gay lads in there were not really gay but just pretending to be in order to pander to a part of the viewer base? It would be called out instantly.

But, no... Camp, even if I saw that in him, does not mean gay.

[bots]

Segan can be whatever he wants to be. He isn't actively misrepresenting himself by having a fake showmance. To me, he is just a bloke trying to have fun in a trying environment

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I don't understand the speculation here at all.

This constant challenging of a person's stated sexuality is a bit weird... Why not just accept what a person says they are? Can you imagine if I was questioning if the gay lads in there were not really gay but just pretending to be in order to pander to a part of the viewer base? It would be called out instantly.

But, no... Camp, even if I saw that in him, does not mean gay.

…yeah, that’s it as well…that camp is more an exaggerated style that can apply to any sexuality…but it’s not something that could be applied to Segun’s character, though…

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

The same way Nathan and Ali have been questioned
It’s just another thread on this forum

And to be fair to redway we question pretty much everything

[thesheriff443]

I think he is just a bit of a mums boy on the outside
And he gets frightened easily or unerved like when Lilly screams

[Redway]

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Redway

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

[bots]

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

It does amuse me when people come down on the recent male casts of Big Brother, because the people doing the complaining are usually the exact sort of people who've made it so that these wishy washy, non-confrontational types are basically the only kind of men you're allowed to see on reality tv anymore.

The hysteria from some when Marcello took a surly attitude with Sarah.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Redway

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

…it’s really that thing of speculating where speculating wasn’t required though, for me…I mean, whatever his sexuality anyway, doesn’t and wouldn’t change any interactions in the house or enlighten us about anything that is relevant…Marcello is ‘too masculine’…Segun is not quite enough masculine…it’s just too much and too unnecessary and too irrelevant , is my thought…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, that’s it as well…that camp is more an exaggerated style that can apply to any sexuality…but it’s not something that could be applied to Segun’s character, though…

I have known plenty of effeminate camp men who are not gay.

It's the same as calling women that showed even the smallest masculine trait a lesbian.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me

…that doesn’t really raise any flags for me, I have to say…I know many pastors and very religious people of many faiths and they’re all completely different people whose religious faith/belief doesn’t impact their character etc in any negative way…

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s really that thing of speculating where speculating wasn’t required though, for me…I mean, whatever his sexuality anyway, doesn’t and wouldn’t change any interactions in the house or enlighten us about anything that is relevant…Marcello is ‘too masculine’…Segun is not quite enough masculine…it’s just too much and too unnecessary and too irrelevant , is my thought…

But not everyone thinks or sees things the same way and questions about housemates and their interactions and intentions is what makes this forum continue to be active

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I have known plenty of effeminate camp men who are not gay.

It's the same as calling women that showed even the smallest masculine trait a lesbian.

…yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking about the comparison with a female and saying…’oh, they seem ‘butch’, let’s question the sexuality as well…’…


…but yeah, I think that we all know ‘camp’ in exaggerated/flamboyant behaviour but that’s a very outdated stereotyping, I think in terms of linking it to ‘gay’…I mean, I can’t say for certain but I have read that some gay guys even watch football in these modern times… an you imagine…?…how crazy is that to think…

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

Oh no! A father carrying their child while simultaneously wanting to keep their hands free.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Oh no! A father carrying their child while simultaneously wanting to keep their hands free.

It’s goes deeper than that I’m afraid

[thesheriff443]

I think Sarah let herself down by saying all men have to do is pump pump squirt

You can be a sperm donor or you can be a real man and a father to your children

[Mystic Mock]

He is probably metrosexual or whatever it was that David Beckham called himself back in the day.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bots

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me

how on earth is he a zealot, hes probably the most tolerant person in the house and you dont see him forcing his religion on anyone.

But yeah, let's all laugh at him for being religious.