[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

We weren't in the interview, so we do not know the ability of other applicants, how they interviewed, their background, experience, situation, if they were offered the role and turned it down, etc... you are assuming that because a Trans person was hired that it was a diversity hire specifically and then you're using that hire and the fact they weren't good at their job (like millions of other people who have been fired or resigned throughout life) to extrapolate that to being a threat/disadvantage to bio women.

Women's biggest threat is straight cis biological men... Not trans women.

Women should be able to have a biological female in charge of a rape crisis centre for women.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Women should be able to have a biological female in charge of a rape crisis centre for women.

Succinctly put.

As for the boxer... Well none of us saw this coming, right. Watching a biological man beat up a biological woman is just sickening and it always surprises me when people stand up for it.

[Ammi]

…I thought this was all known already …that none of this is any new development but that there are and have always been complexities in the specific case of Imane….that she has a genetic condition that impacted her sexual development pre birth and was then assigned female at birth…and she was soicialised, raised etc as a female…anyways I have nothing else to add atm as I don’t feel this article is revealing anything that wasn’t already known and I also don’t feel that it’s a ‘good faith’ article and very slanted in its vein as it comments on Imane’s journey and having his journey despite being fully aware that he was genetically male…him/he/his is not for me atm an informative article and really shabby as this someone who was assigned a female at birth by the medical profession and that was how she was raised…and whatever her sexual development/specific condition etc…what she is and knows is female…


…the combat competitive sporting aspect for me is another aspect to be discussed…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I thought this was all known already …that none of this is any new development but that there are and have always been complexities in the specific case of Imane….that she has a genetic condition that impacted her sexual development pre birth and was then assigned female at birth…and she was soicialised, raised etc as a female…anyways I have nothing else to add atm as I don’t feel this article is revealing anything that wasn’t already known and I also don’t feel that it’s a ‘good faith’ article and very slanted in its vein as it comments on Imane’s journey and having his journey despite being fully aware that he was genetically male…him/he/his is not for me atm an informative article and really shabby as this someone who was assigned a female at birth by the medical profession and that was how she was raised…and whatever her sexual development/specific condition etc…what she is and knows is female…


…the combat competitive sporting aspect for me is another aspect to be discussed…

This is and should be all that matters in this particular case. Women's safety should be the number 1 priority followed by women's right to fair play in sport.

[Ammi]

…that wasn’t what the thread/article etc was, though…it was apparently revealing a shocking revelation that so far as I’m aware, was already known and it doesn’t give or reveal anything new …and is also not an article that I’m going to comment further on atm …(…and having given lots of thoughts previously through the Olympics…)…because there isn’t anything new for me to add on information that was already known at the time …and I also don’t feel that from the wording, that it’s a good faith article and has a specific intention which I’m not going to be a part of…

[Jessica.]

Her being intersex doesn't make her a man, the description sounds like it's describing someone who has something like Swyer syndrome, she is physically just like any other woman minus the ovaries and with the help of IVF could carry a child and give birth. You don't get an advantage in sport with internal testicles.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that wasn’t what the thread/article etc was, though…it was apparently revealing a shocking revelation that so far as I’m aware, was already known and it doesn’t give or reveal anything new …and is also not an article that I’m going to comment further on atm …(…and having given lots of thoughts previously through the Olympics…)…because there isn’t anything new for me to add on information that was already known at the time …and I also don’t feel that from the wording, that it’s a good faith article and has a specific intention which I’m not going to be a part of…

A lot of people did say at the time that the results which excluded both Imane and the other boxer (can't remember their name right now) from a previous competition were not to be trusted because it was the IBA who had done the tests

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Her being intersex doesn't make her a man, the description sounds like it's describing someone who has something like Swyer syndrome, she is physically just like any other woman minus the ovaries and with the help of IVF could carry a child and give birth. You don't get an advantage in sport with internal testicles.

The male levels of testosterone should exclude her from fighting a woman in a boxing match. If she wants to live her life as a woman, fair enough, but I never want to see another biological woman being smashed in the face by a biological man ever again.

[Beso]

She got hired cause she is trans and it ticked boxes,the proof on this is the fact she was **** at her job..only a stubborn fool would refuse to accept that fact.

And this is a rape crisis centre that has hired someone unfit for the job to tick those boxes instead if doing another round of interviews to find someone able and qualified to do the job correctly.

It will take a rape by one of these people in one of these settings make some people wake up and smell the coffee, but even then there will be some calling it a one off.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I am waiting until it comes from a source other than Reduxx....

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/redux...d-credibility/

Interesting information about Reduxx from that website that you've linked up.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Women should be able to have a biological female in charge of a rape crisis centre for women.

I don't actually disagree with this statement, I just don't agree with the way the story was being utilised in the context of this topic particularly.

In regards to Imane - until I hear it from a reputable news source, I will believe what I have been told from the person whose body it is: they were born and assigned female and was raised as such. Nobody gave a **** about Imane competing in the 2020 Olympics when she was knocked out at the Quarter finals.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

The male levels of testosterone should exclude her from fighting a woman in a boxing match. If she wants to live her life as a woman, fair enough, but I never want to see another biological woman being smashed in the face by a biological man ever again.

Where is the actual evidence she is a biological man?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

We weren't in the interview, so we do not know the ability of other applicants, how they interviewed, their background, experience, situation, if they were offered the role and turned it down, etc... you are assuming that because a Trans person was hired that it was a diversity hire specifically and then you're using that hire and the fact they weren't good at their job (like millions of other people who have been fired or resigned throughout life) to extrapolate that to being a threat/disadvantage to bio women.

Women's biggest threat is straight cis biological men... Not trans women.

I fully agree, however I feel there are far too many of these taking advantage of how easy it is to claim being trans as a way of accessing female spaces, of course we are told this isn't happening,its just a shame the trans community are enabling this by not speaking out against it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I don't actually disagree with this statement, I just don't agree with the way the story was being utilised in the context of this topic particularly.

In regards to Imane - until I hear it from a reputable news source, I will believe what I have been told from the person whose body it is: they were born and assigned female and was raised as such. Nobody gave a **** about Imane competing in the 2020 Olympics when she was knocked out at the Quarter finals.

I care about women's sport and their safety in sport so I will be following this story with interest. It's all well and good taking someones word when it doesn't effect anyone else but if Imane is competing in the female category more than that is necessary

[Beso]

Look at the percentages of trans who commit crime compared to the percentages of females and males who commit crime.I wont even bother looking cause I know its going to be about double, and a high percentage of the crimes will be sexual, and committed against women and children.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Where is the actual evidence she is a biological man?

Not sure any source will be suitable for those who support biological males in women's sport.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not sure any source will be suitable for those who support biological males in women's sport.

I don't support biological males in women's sport.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not sure any source will be suitable for those who support biological males in women's sport.

Imane Khelif is a biologically born female


how many times must i keep repeating myself

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You do because what you said is not correct. Just ignorant.

No its correct. I've done my maths, and the whole of TIBB knows your numbers tend not to add up.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Women should be able to have a biological female in charge of a rape crisis centre for women.

The root of this for me: ... Can we all just go back to a time when we all spoke for ourselves and stop this being offended for other people nonsense? I think I know what my own interests are... and I don't imagine (well, I should say I know exactly no one...) any actual woman that isn't ideologically possessed that is asking for this type of representation... it's skeevy that other groups that I'd never even heard of prior have more buying power in my life than me...

[Nicky91]

who to believe more in this


news tabloid or actual family who do know her better than anyone else



very difficult




me when i see this forum sinking lower and lower

[Nicky91]

whom this all started with


that salty butthurt italian loser Miss Angela Carini, whom exposed herself as a hypocrite too of not really having anything against Imane either but i guess the potential for a huge media scandal and the following $$$ were too good to resist lol

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

who to believe more in this

news tabloid or actual family who do know her better than anyone else

Well we're not going to find out by asking them directly, Nicky ...

I agree with you that it's unverified.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Maru

Well we're not going to find out by asking them directly, Nicky ...

I agree with you that it's unverified.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...as-born-a-girl

her father went public though, in a interview with Sky Sports

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

No its correct. I've done my maths, and the whole of TIBB knows your numbers tend not to add up.

Yet here we are with no proof of your ignorant comments. Once again